What makes certain 600cc+ sport bikes not beginner friendly?

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#11 Unread post by Wrider »

Ohhhh ok. In the bike world when you say 600cc it tends to mean the 600cc sportbikes from the big 4 Japanese companies, such as the GSX-R600, YZF-R6, CBR600RR, and ZX-6R.

As for those, those are completely different animals. All of those are good bikes, and at very worst are "gray area" beginner bikes. Probably the best for a rank beginner is the Ninja 500, followed by the Ninja 650, then the SV650. I have ridden all 3 and they're all great fun IMO.
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#12 Unread post by R121991 »

so would it be bad for me to get an r6? this i what im lookin at right now.
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/mcy/2324502482.html
probably gonna ask him to lower price due to its miles.
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R121991 wrote:so would it be bad for me to get an r6? this i what im lookin at right now.
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/mcy/2324502482.html
probably gonna ask him to lower price due to its miles.
YZF-R6 is one of the "race replica supersport" models I was referring to above. Wrider listed the four specific bikes we're talking about, one from each of the major Japanese manufacturers. Not the best bet.

For the bike in the Craigslist ad, I'd also be specifically concerned about "has been lowered a little bit." How much is a little bit? Lowering a bike messes with it's steering geometry and handling.

Best bet is a Ninja 500 or GS500F. Second best bet is a Ninja 650R, ER-6n, something like that. If your motorcycle experience is chugging around local streets on a Fat Boy, in comparison any of these bikes will be fast and maneuverable to a degree that'll blow your mind. You won't be bored.
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Yep, that's the YZF-R6 I talked about.
It tends to be known for the most track-oriented performance of any of them. Meaning sharpest steering, most responsive throttle, peakiest power delivery, etc.
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R121991 wrote:so would it be bad for me to get an r6? this i what im lookin at right now.
This is perfect for you R121991, I just finished this earlier this week:

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/modelhis ... -Page1.htm

You'll see how the R6 was designed for the track, not the road... but that's typical of 600cc supersports.

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Just thought...

There are a few 600cc or bigger bikes that COULD be recommended if you ace the MSF course and are feeling very confident...but still, I would say you are missing out on a lot of fun by not starting off under 600cc..and even thought these selected 600+cc motorcycle are "lower" in power they are still heavy for a beginner.

Again, my advice, get a Ninja 250, CBR250R, Ninja 400R, Ninja 500R or GS500E, GS500F, learn the ropes and go about it the best way.




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#17 Unread post by NorthernPete »

Wonder what happened to this non listenin fellow.....
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#18 Unread post by sapaul »

Fell off his R6 probably
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#19 Unread post by NorthernPete »

I liked how he was all "I'm thinking about bikes A B or C" and that met with the response "well, those are good, we thought you were talking abut bike D, which is bad" and then he replied with "I think ill get bike D"
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#20 Unread post by storysunfolding »

totalmotorcycle wrote:There are a few 600cc or bigger bikes that COULD be recommended if you ace the MSF course and are feeling very confident.
Oh trust me, those scores don't mean much. Even then, you were able to ride around a parking lot at some pretty low standards on an underpowered motorcycle below 20 mph. I'll always recommend getting a small bike for a year or two and working on the rider, before you worry about getting anything with real power.
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