flynrider wrote:In my unfortunate experience, typical road rash doesn't really scar much. It usually takes a deeper wound to produce significant scarring. I once had solid road rash on one side of my body, from my butt to my neck. It was horribly painful for weeks, but now you can't even tell it was ever there.
BTW - I keep hearing (and occasionally witnessing in person), this same crash story. Noob on powerful bike gets surprised by how powerful the bike is. Duh!
This happened to me in April:
This is what it looks like in late October:
Yes, I bought both a new bike and a new computer to consol myself
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.
I ended up with a bit of road rash after my last off due to wearing work pants, not riding pants. It was on my calf and was subsequently covered by plaster for six weeks, so I was a little concerned about its ability to heal.
When the plaster came off it was as good as gold, and it was just a patch of nice fresh skin.
It actually healed better all wrapped up than it would have getting fresh air to keep it dry. Go figure.
Lion_Lady wrote:And what I find sooo frustrating in this Newbies forum is that some folks (including some veteran TM forum members, who ought to have a clue) will actually tell a newbie - "Go ahead and get that R bike, just be really careful with the throttle."
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Good point.
Surely the most sensible advice to give a beginner is to start small and work up to the more powerful bikes they dream of. I can't, in good conscience, recommend any 650cc bike to someone who I've never met and who hasn't any motorcycling experience.
I haven't seen a single example of where someone recommended a race replica as a good starter bike. Let's try to keep comments relevant and within the realm of reality.
I've only seen people give up, and say something like "you've obviously already decided, so be careful." Not really an ouright recommendation. That's why I stay out of most of those threads, except to read them. I'm not sure I can really contribute anything to folks who don't really seem to want the honest opinions they asked for.
ronboskz650sr wrote:I've only seen people give up, and say something like "you've obviously already decided, so be careful." Not really an ouright recommendation. That's why I stay out of most of those threads, except to read them. I'm not sure I can really contribute anything to folks who don't really seem to want the honest opinions they asked for.
Yeah! You're right there.
I can understand L_L's frustration and ZooTech is probably correct that nobody recommends the race replica models. It does seem this new bikers forum is full to overflowing with the same questions about these bikes though. I suppose many don't read the stickies or are after a reaction. Maybe we shouldn't respond.
@ ZooTech.
I think my comments were relevant and within the realm of reality. After all, those comments are just my opinion.
Perpetuating the comment made by Lion_Lady about TMW veterans recommending "R" bikes to newbies is irrelevant because nobody ever has, and it's outside the realm of reality for the same reason. Which bikes you do and do not recommend to newbies is your opinion, and I would never attempt to stifle that.
What has been said, by me and a couple others, is that it's not mandatory for a newbie to learn on the weakest and lightest bike he/she can possibly find. If you want proof, just ask the very people who recommend 250's to newbies what they learned on...and let the hypocrisy commence.
I am still of the opinion that a lot of people that recommend tiny bikes to newbies do so to inflate their own ego. By making it apparent that a person needs to possess mad skills to ride the very bikes they are riding, they elevate themselves to a god-like status in the eyes of the newbies. It's like, "Yes, Mr. Newbie, I ride a 650cc something-or-other, but YOU, unskilled one, must begin your long and arduous journey into motorcycling on a 12hp moped-on-steroids. For I have mastered the art of throttle control, balance, and the sacred MSF course and only through discipline, study, and talent have I earned the elite status of 650 owner." And then the newbie is supposed to say, "Oh wise one, thank you for sharing your wisdom with me and setting me on the correct path to motorcycling righteousness! I was a fool to think I could just hop on a 650 and exercise basic throttle modulation! You have shown me that my wrist only has two settings, and that only on a motorcycle that can barely move under its own power will my lack of motor skills and dexterity not become the means of my demise. I hope to some day, many years from now, possess the skills, wisdom, and common sense necessary to ride the bike you ride which, ironically, also happens to be your first bike. But who am I to question you, oh holy one?"
Zootech wrote:Perpetuating the comment made by Lion_Lady about TMW veterans recommending "R" bikes to newbies is irrelevant because nobody ever has, and it's outside the realm of reality for the same reason. Which bikes you do and do not recommend to newbies is your opinion, and I would never attempt to stifle that.
Point taken.
I am still of the opinion that a lot of people that recommend tiny bikes to newbies do so to inflate their own ego. By making it apparent that a person needs to possess mad skills to ride the very bikes they are riding, they elevate themselves to a god-like status in the eyes of the newbies
If someone recommends a tiny bike to a newbie to inflate their own ego then they must have very low self esteem. I think it far more likely the recommendation would be for concern for the well being of the newbie.
By the way what do you consider a tiny bike?
Possessing "mad skills", is only part of it. What about experience?
Anyhow ZooTech. I enjoy your posts and I did find the last one amusing though far-fetched.
