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leester · #1 Unread post by **leester** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:47 am

Hi guys. I'm a bit embarrased to ask this question...thing is i've never in my life used a filling station before and i have no idea how those pumps work

Do you just squeeze the trigger thing to start the flow? and does the flow stop when you let go?
Also , is all unleaded fuel the same or is there different sorts? My dealer told me to put 'normal unleaded ' in the scooter....
Any help would be appreciated
Leester

#2 Unread post by **Jamers!** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:15 am

In some stations you just put it in and pull, some you have to pull the handle up and lift a lever thing, then pull. As for the pulling, there is useally a lock so you dont have to hold it. As for gas, just but the cheapest you can find in. There is different types of gas and i guess the nice gas is better for your enigne or some junk, watever. Just put in the cheap stuff.

JWF

#3 Unread post by **ZooTech** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:35 am

JWF505 wrote:There is different types of gas and i guess the nice gas is better for your enigne or some junk, watever. Just put in the cheap stuff.

Yes, please pump some 87-octane into your high-compression engine. The Funny-Farm has been kinda inactive lately and we could all use a good laugh.

Shiv · #4 Unread post by **Shiv** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:01 am

Yah...put in what's recommended for your bike. If you can go with the 'cheap stuff' then great.

But otherwise you're gonna sputter, your engine is gonna die, and it's gonna cost some money to get it repaired.

Or at least it did in my car.

Crydee · #5 Unread post by **Crydee** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:07 pm

In a regular car there will be a insignificant amount of change between 87 (regular) octane gas, and 92 (premium). Higher end cars it is differnt, and I have no clue about motercycles. But a scooter would use 87 octane. All gasoline is unleaded (almost).

Some stations require you to pay before you pump, others you pump then pay. Others you just slide in a credit card, let it proccess click yes / no for recipet then pump. You've never been with a parent or something when they filled up a car when you were little?

Mag7C · #6 Unread post by **Mag7C** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:20 pm

I had to figure it out too. Legally you can't pump your own gas here, but I guess for a bike you can cause they always hand me the pump.

Slide your card then push the button for what you want. Or if you're paying cash just push the button. Most pumps have a little digital instruction display to help. On some of them you have to lift a seemingly hidden lever where you removed the nozzle. I figured that one out by looking like an idiot and pressing on several stickers and panels on the pump before the attendant showed me the lift.

Then just put the nozzle in and squeeze. Squeeze less as it fills up or you'll splash gas all over the tank.

I always buy the high end stuff, because really if you're only filling up 3 gallons it's not like the extra 20 cents per gallon is going to bankrupt you.

#7 Unread post by **Sev** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:43 pm

I seem to recall being told by several different people that putting the wrong octane (to much or to little) will damage it in the long run. So unless your manual says premium put the regular stuff in there.

Shiv · #8 Unread post by **Shiv** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:27 pm

Squeeze less as it fills up or you'll splash gas all over the tank.

Sometimes.

Some pumps cut off automatically when a sensor is hit (at least I'm assuming that's how it tells) and some don't. Just be careful.

The majority do though.

ronboskz650sr · Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:35 pm

On all the pumps around here, the shutoff is too abrupt and causes a splash that always gets on my tank....so after the first week of riding around here trying different stations, I never lock the trigger anymore. Your results may vary..Nice sig, Zoo!

flynrider · Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:55 pm

Sevulturus wrote:I seem to recall being told by several different people that putting the wrong octane (to much or to little) will damage it in the long run. So unless your manual says premium put the regular stuff in there.

Putting low octane gas into a high compression engine is very bad. It will cause detonation (a.k.a. pinging) and if left unchecked, will eventually put a hole in the top of your piston.

Putting high octane gas into a low compression engine doesn't have such serious consequences. Since high octane gas actually resists burning more than low octane gas, it can eventually cause some carbon buildup in the valves due to incomplete combustion. Temperatures and pressures in the low compression cylinders are not as great, and high octane gas tends to leave some byproducts that are normally burned off in higher compression engines.

In short, it's best to use the grade that the motorcycle engine was designed to burn. If you have to use a higher grade every once in awhile, don't worry about it. Avoid using a lower grade than recommended by the manufacturer.

BTW - For members outside the U.S., don't pay any attention to the specific octane numbers you see quoted here. The numbers are calculated differently, depending on where you live. In the U.S. we use R+M/2 (average of reasearch octane + motor octane). I believe Mexico also uses that method, but few other countries do.