please explain x-siding

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Shiv · #11 Unread post by **Shiv** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:25 am

Except you're almost guaranteed tol fly completely off the bike and not recover like that.

< I Fly > · Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:44 am

WTF!

I think this guy is talking about a radiator, not a carborator.

skinnyjoint · Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:59 am

water in the carb hahah. thats funny. whew.

skoebl · #14 Unread post by **skoebl** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:02 am

JWF505 wrote:the video im posting is a high side, a very extreme high side but a highside none the less. http://www.roadracing.org/media/hshs.html

did you see the way the back wheel lost traction, regained it and launched him off the bike? that is a high side.

That guy has skills. He stuck with it and re-mounted the bike...Crazy...

#15 Unread post by **ZooTech** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:51 am

camthepyro wrote:Water (even a drop) = bad for fuel systems

You don't want any water at all getting into your fuel system at all. So like, if some water gets poored into your gas tank for some reason, you have to empty your gas tank, so the water doesn't get in the fuel system. I can't exactly remember why, but it has something to do with damage to the system.

Water doesn't compress so, if it gets into the cylinder, it will probably bend a push rod or cause other chaos to occur.

camthepyro · Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:13 am

Ok, so that's why.

Hey, you're from marysville, OH? I remember hearing that some racer or another was born there. Plus, marysville is the most common town name in the US I believe. I was born in Marysville/Yuba City California (they're basically the same city).

#17 Unread post by **Skier** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:41 am

Actually, guys, small amounts of water poured into a carb has good effects for the combustion chamber. Much like Seafoam, it will vaporize and take off a small amount of carbon buildup with it, shooting it out the exahust.

However if you dump a two-liter bottle of water in it all at once, yeah, you're probably going to break something expensive.

#18 Unread post by **ZooTech** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:44 am

Skier wrote:Actually, guys, small amounts of water poured into a carb has good effects for the combustion chamber.

Can we use your bike to define "small amounts"?

dieziege · Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:54 am

In all seriousness, water injection is a known, accepted, and well respected practice on performance engines. It is common on WWII era high power airplane engines, super and turbo charged race car engines, and so on. In the past it was even used on some high end "normal" passenger cars. It controls preignition, lowers the intake gas temperature, changes the expansion characterististics of the combustion gasses, and can also help remove certain deposits.

The amount of water injected is fairly small though. Small enough that it all evaporates in the cylinder, so it can't damage the engine. It is usually done like oil injection on the more sophisticated two-stroke engines...there is a tank and a small control valve to "inject" a metered amount of water.

All of that said... I still find the idea of putting water into a car carb as normal maintenance funny as anything...

#20 Unread post by **Sev** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:08 pm

Low Side - taking a corner to fast and having the bike lose traction and tip of

Hig side - the back wheel catches up with the front wheel and launches the rider in a rather spectacular manner off the front of the bike, then falls over and chases him.