Considering the whole purpose of the having the v-twin is to produce low and mid range power, wouldn't the aftermarket system enhance it's low to mid range power, or were you just referring to how aftermarket systems effect inline fours?Skier wrote:Changing the engine's ignition timing and fuel mixture will not increase low-end torque to the levels the original poster wants. The inline four motors just aren't made for that - they are designed for lots of HP up high. A V-twin, with its much larger pistons, produces boatloads more torque, much lower, than any production inline four.VermilionX wrote:you can install a PCIII on them.grampi wrote: I could go with about any of the inline four crotch rockets, but none of them have any low or mid range punch.
if you go w/ a suzuki... you can install both a PCIII and a TRE.
even w/ just the TRE , which is a very simple and non-expensive mod, you will get the low-mid torque you want combined w/ the higher top speed.
im not sure if other makes also have a limiter and if they do i dunno what they use for a TRE.
installing PCIII usually requires that you upgrade your exhaust sys too so that's gonna be really expensive.
Also, a full exhaust system will actually sacrifice low-end torque and HP for high-end HP gains. Exactly opposite what the OP wants.
the SV1000 is compatible w/ a TRE.grampi wrote: Considering the whole purpose of the having the v-twin is to produce low and mid range power, wouldn't the aftermarket system enhance it's low to mid range power, or were you just referring to how aftermarket systems effect inline fours?
Intake, exhaust, and PCIII mods will increase torque, but it will move the power curve upwards, causing the bike to be less responsive in the lower RPM's than it was before. This will happen pretty much any time you make an engine breath better.VermilionX wrote:i thought that's what the PCIII is for in conjunction w/ the exhaust upgrade.Skier wrote:
Also, a full exhaust system will actually sacrifice low-end torque and HP for high-end HP gains. Exactly opposite what the OP wants.
oh well, if you're right then i just learned something new again.
Mintbread wrote:The MT-01 is a torque machine! Just look at the rear sprocket to get an indication of its bottom end.
I tmakes me want to do bad things, but I still like the MT-0S betterMintbread wrote:The MT-01 is a torque machine! Just look at the rear sprocket to get an indication of its bottom end.
You would probably be able to answer some of my specific questions that would help me decide if I'm going to be interested in a VTR. I will probably make references to the V-Max as I owned one, and because its engine had a lot of the qualities I like in an MC engine.High_Side wrote:I've got Superhawk #120 in the garage from the first model run of the first year they were made. It's a great bike, if a little uncomfortable for the long run, as well as limited in fuel range. It is more comfortable than the old TL1000, the RC-51, and the SV1000S. The engine also has more bottom end than any of these other bikes. I used to get a new bike every 3 years and now I'm in to my 10th season with the same bike. The new stuff that I've ridden just doesn't move me the same way. If you get the opportunity to try one, go for it. It sounds like you are looking for exactly what the VTR is.
There may be a 650 V-Strom in my future, but I will be keeping the VTR...
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