dirt to street, back to dirt

[MotoF150]

I found myself yesterday when I took my ATV out on 36 mile mud run, I found out I was having fun. As a guy thats a former dirt bike, atv rider, then at the same time owning and riding a street bike I found out its no fun anymore riding a street bike, the thrill is gone, its boring riding on a smooth, level road, the feeling of excitement, being scared isn't there. I found myself thinking I always complain about my street bike, the reason I complain about it is because its not a dirt bike, I was wrong thinking my street bike would thrill and excite me, instead I was complainning about my bike, but it was me, not my bike. Talking to other atv owners I figured that out, I would never be happy with any street bike. I expect too much from a street bike , I expect my street bike to perform like a dirt bike. My inner child is set free riding my atv and dirt bike, on my street bike I feel like an old man.

[Mintbread]

I found out its no fun anymore riding a street bike, the thrill is gone, its boring riding on a smooth, level road, the feeling of excitement, being scared isn't there.

You must be riding the wrong bike the wrong way.

[DivideOverflow]

that, and he has a lemon.

[MotoF150]

Dear Mr. Mintbread,, I would agree Im riding the wrong street bike, but I dissagree im riding it the wrong way. I strongly feel being an experienced, almost a pro motorcross rider, that makes be a better street bike rider. Its just I expect my street bike to do what my dirt bike can do and now im just beginning to accept that no street bike can do that. I need the thrill of poping the throttle and feeling the front tire getting some air, I need that quick acceleration and throttle responce, the suspension of a dirt bike, the light weight feel where you can steer the bike with ur body, on a street bike its like ur trapped riding the bike only one way and there are limits and rules. I wanta have fun, I want a bike to take my breath away a bike that I can control to almost the limit of crashing it. No offence: But I have seen guys that are great street bike riders try to ride a dirt bike, they can't do it, thats why I concider myself an expert, I can ride anything and I look like a pro doing it.

[DivideOverflow]

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sorry, you just sound a bit full of yourself. Street riding and dirt riding are very different. I'm willing to bet that your "great street bike rider" friends would leave you in the dust at the track or in twisties if they are truely great. So your logic that "I'm an expert because I ride better in dirt than people who don't!" is quite flawed. In fact, I would bet 10:1 that I would leave you (especially with you on your M50) miles behind at the first set of curves. Dirt bikes? Not my cup of tea, that isn't where my experience is.

You are lumping street riding as a whole on your pos M50 lemon bike. Here's a thought: since you are an expert and look like a pro, go pick up a street bike that actually has some performance associated with it.

The type of ride you are capable of with a 600cc sport bike, a ducati, a buell, etc, is very very different than what you are stuck with right now. You might be more in the offroad scene than the track/street scene, that is fine... but saying that you are not happy with any streetbike based on your M50 and your own lack of ambition to keep yourself interested doesn't quite cut it.

What I wan't to know is what street bike DOESN'T have quick acceleration and throttle response. Most sport bikes will raise their front wheel... but they definitely don't have offroad suspensions. They have suspensions that make sure that they will track a line at high speeds and won't get squirrely on you! I think you just feel like you are going fast offroad because it is bumpy terrain.

Maybe you can only ride your bike one way, but let me tell you, I'm not limited by such ailments.

It probably is good that you decided that dirt is so much better, since riding to the limit of crashing (and then crashing) in the dirt is usually not quite so dangerous as on the street (especially public streets). For everyone else, we are able to combine the sport and the practicallity without many issues. I like to challenge myself, but I still know my limits and I go out with the attempt to be as safe as possible.

Also, you feel like an old man riding your street bike because you BOUGHT AN OLD MAN BIKE. Go hop on a supersport and tell me you feel like an old man sitting on one of those... here's a tip: old men can't sit on them for more than a minute...

Your argument bothers me because you are basically saying: "All street cars are slow and can't maneuver because I bought this SUV and it doesn't perform like my rally car!!" answer: "try out the porsche or the corvette!". Thankfully, with motorcycles, the porsches, corvettes, ferraris, etc, of the bike world are a lot cheaper!

[dieziege]

His M50 is a lemon in exactly the way he is an "expert" who can "ride anything and look like a pro doing it"...in his head.

Why would an "expert" buy an 800cc cruiser if thier idea of fun was "being scared" by the "thrill of poping the throttle and feeling the front tire getting some air"?

It is classic... he doesn't research the type of bike he wants. He buys a bike designed for a different role. He blames his bike, calling it a POS, and by extension decides that all street bike riding is lame. He uses this fatuous reasoning to decide that he is better than people who actually enjoy riding street bikes.

[secgeek]

It is classic... he doesn't research the type of bike he wants. He buys a bike designed for a different role. He blames his bike, calling it a POS, and by extension decides that all street bike riding is lame. He uses this fatuous reasoning to decide that he is better than people who actually enjoy riding street bikes.

I had a CBR900 10 years ago.... Was much more power then I needed and therefore after 2 great years wiped out... Bought a nighthawk 750 a couple of weeks back to get back into riding and after a few days loved the hell out of it but realized I wanted a cruiser... I don't want to go 120+,

I just want to ride and enjoy.... I test rode an m50 and if you are basing your comments on "I want the wheel to come up" then dude you bought the wrong bike... I bought a Shadow 750 yesterday and I am very happy cruising at 80/85...

Of course I want more speed but this is my first summer after 10 years, so next season I am going to go higher in the cruiser range...

Before you forego street bikes pick up a cbr 600 or something in that realm and then you will notice that street bikes are just as fun as dirt.... Just a different kind of fun

[MotoF150]

I purchaced the Suzuki M50 cause I had limited money and my credit score is near 0. I only had $5000 to spend, I wanted a new, and the most street cruiser bike I could get with the money, plus the M50 was the ONLY cruiser bike with the speedometer located between the handlebars where I can see it, and the bike looked good and I kinda figured after riding the Yamaha and the Honda 1100 the M50 had the same power and acceleration. I bought the bike on short notice cause I wanted to go on a long bike trip with some so called back stabbing friends. I have 6200 miles on that bike and I can ride that bike to the limit it can do and I can lean it over the curves so far and have the scratch marks on the bottom of the foot pegs to prove it. The dealer did try to talk me into the V Strom 650 telling me it matched my riding style, he was right, but after listening to the horrible bone shaker sound the engine made I didn't want it. The V Strom didn't fit riding with the cruiser bikes. When I bought the M50 I thought I was getting a high performance sport bike with it looking like a cruiser. Its not. My Next bike im planning on is a Yamaha FZ1 or a Kawasaki Contours as soon as I can find a sucker to give me $5K for my M50 and I need to save an extra $4K, have $2500 saved so far.

[BubbaGump]

Here's Moto shootin off his mouth again - stirring the hornets nest and gettin everybody worked up. Leave him alone guys, this site is the extent of his social life....and its not going very well.

[DivideOverflow]

You are still looking at the wrong bike for what you claim you want. And trying to knowingly scam someone doesn't speak well for your character either.

And scraping pegs on a cruiser is like doing a pushup, most people should be able to do it.. If you don't scrape parts on a cruiser, it is probably the right bike for you.

It boils down to the fact that you are picking a bike based upon what "fits with the cruiser crowd"??? And you give harley riders a hard time????

And I don't know how you thought the M50 was a high performance sport bike that looks like a cruiser. All that says to me is you didn't do any research, at all... and I have no pity for you.

I don't know what horrible bone shaker sound you are talking about either... it is a V-Twin... it shouldn't be half as bad as a two-stroke single cylinder (which you claim to be a master of)!!

For $2500+, you can get a really good used sport bike... If you spent as much time actually researching motorcycles as you do complaining about yours, you would probably have a better idea of what is going on.