Kawasaki Vulcan 900

[Bachstrad37]

LOL - Moto, you really are an idiot. Everything you say cracks me up.

I often wonder if you're for real or just being a crazy donkey. If you're playing it, Ok...some of us bought into your act. But if you're not, dude...you got some issues with your rationale skills. Do you even know the difference between what is a "FACT" and what an "OPINION" is?

[MotoF150]

excuse me,,, but it is a "FACT" that MOST engines and frames for Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki are made in China, made at the same factory and they all look the same! Just like when you buy ketchup, you can buy Heinz Brand, or the cheap store brand, but the cheap store brand is made by Heinz at the same factory. Yoshimura in Japan makes all of the crotch rocket engines except the Honda 599 and 919, but most of the cruiser engine and frames, dirt bike, and atv engines and frames are made in China.

[dieziege]

Moto knows this 'cause "Yoshi" pipes fit on all the different brand engines, and how likely would that be if Yoshi didn't make the engines? Like duh!

[Sev]

Can we just ban this idiot? PLEASE? He's offering bad advice to newbs, slandering bike makers and bike owners, and generally just being a pest.

I really hope that new members don't take this guys

I honestly think im being a service by helping those in need with my vast experinces and intellectual advice.

seriously, because it's only going to get them in trouble, or hurt.

I can't help but notice that smart as he claims to be, he isn't even capable of making paragraphs.

[Bachstrad37]

The Kawasaki and Suzuki cruisers all look almost exactly the same? A Blind Man can see they are made by the same outsource manufacturing plant somewhere in China, maybe by slave labor.

So since the frames "look alike" they're from the same source? In your statement, you claim Kawasaki and Suzuki cruiser frames come out of one country - China. Care to elaborate specific models and associate the years along with which plant? And with "Made in China" branded, would you then claim that it's of poor quality and is a "POS" as you boldly state in your M50 sig?

Your specific M50 had issues, that is a very very small blip on the radar. THAT is a FACT. Also a FACT - All motorcycle like automobiles are now more reliable than EVER. I have read that post on the review forum several times. Not ONCE have you concluded that you perhaps got a lemon. You still persist that your own personal experience rise above all others that have the same bike that did not have the problems you did. In fact, you even called them dishonest for NOT having issues you did.

And let's revisit this China business. Suzuki along with many Japanese manufacturing companies practice the Kaizen philosophy. Do you know what that is? If you don't, you need to read up on it because it's that very philosophy that made Toyota what it is today. In the 60s and 70s, Japanese manufacturing was horrid. Not even on the same scale with what China quality is today vs. the rest of the world. But the Japs. were persistent with their Kaizen practice and are now among the very best in engineering and manufacturing. You are an idiot to write off anything from China. Especially so if you don't think the Japanese brainchild from Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha, etc. will improve at all levels in China.

And even if it IS true that the M50 is the worst bike ever built, you'd still be an idiot because of your rationale that any motorcycle part that came out of China is crap. Lots of parts come out of China, and they're not all crap. Some are superior when you use the price to quality ratio. Everything evolves. It's the process of continuous improvement that will bend you over and screw your dumb arse, Moto. You're so eager to write off things due to your personal misfortune that you skew everyone else's legitimate inquiry with your "facts".

[flynrider]

Well, we did get Moto after he was banned from the Suzuki groups, so we shouldn't expect much.

I wondered about his irrational and contradictory posts until last month when he posted :

I flipped my atv once and the atv landed on my head

'nuff said

[Bachstrad37]

And WTF does your anology of ketchup have anything to do with quality of Suzukis?

[MotoF150]

I get my FACTS from a Yamoto Dealer, he told me the engines and frames are made in China. Hop on over to ur local Yamoto Dealer and look at the Yamoto bikes and ATV's they are exactly the same as Honda and Yamaha. They are the same, you know why? Yamoto is made in China, Yamoto has been making bikes for Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki for years, in the contract Yamoto has the right to make and produce bikes and sell them under their name, they OWN the rights of old models that the big japanese mfg has discontinued, sooooo when Yamaha disscontinues the XT500 the exact same bike is made by Yamoto and sold under Yamoto's name. The Yamoto Dealer looked at my bike and told me its made in China.

[NorthernPete]

your ketchup thing is wrong..store brand ketchup sucks....

Hienz above all kinds!

[Wizzard]

excuse me,,, but it is a "FACT" that MOST engines and frames for Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki are made in China, made at the same factory and they all look the same! Just like when you buy ketchup, you can buy Heinz Brand, or the cheap store brand, but the cheap store brand is made by Heinz at the same factory. Yoshimura in Japan makes all of the crotch rocket engines except the Honda 599 and 919, but most of the cruiser engine and frames, dirt bike, and atv engines and frames are made in China.

Excuse me , but what , exactly , is your frame of reference or reference source? Because I don't believe this for the simple fact that I deal with these bikes on a daily basis as well as a couple of bikes that are actually made in China . The Chinese are great copiers but they have no quality control , you're gonna have to prove this one to me and , sounds like , to many others .
Let's not forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery , hence the reason that the majority of cruisers have similar styling .
Regards, Wizzard