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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:01 pm
by Sev
JWF505 wrote:
Sevulturus wrote:That hurt me so bad I'm going to go get on my bike and go for a ride to cool myself down before I post somethign hurtful back. I think you should to the same...

/salt on wounds

ya ill go hope on my bike and---.....oooooh wait i dont have one. yeeeaaaaa, guess i lose :laughing:




JWF
Ohhhh yeahhhhh, that's right, you don't! Why don't you put on your gear and hop in your car?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:29 pm
by Kal
I don't even have a car to hop in...


I just wear my gear round the house...

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:34 pm
by Jamers!
Kal wrote:I don't even have a car to hop in...


I just wear my gear round the house...


hahahah sounds like me. see this thread viewtopic.php?t=10260


JWF

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:24 pm
by Chris8187
I never said I spoke for everyone, and I really don't care. If people took a minimum of two minutes to think things through, there would be a lot less self-explanatory questions. If he had just looked at the basic specs and used some basic math, anyone could figure this out easily. If he hadn't ridden a bike before I could understand, but he said he has been around for a couple years, so he has been around before, so he should have some knowledge already. Plus, this isn't a motorcycle skill, which people have questions on and want to make sure they do it right, but he is asking if a 600 would go fast enough, and not would it be comfortable. That would be a good question. It probably took longer to post the question than to figure out. Rants over, I just don't like questions that seem to me like they put no research into it.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:49 am
by esanger
Ok, I will chime in now. If I wasn't totally clear I apologize. I am not concerned about speed, I am not concerned about the money. I am concerned about what Divideoverflow was saying. Being that I am 6'2 and 280lbs, is a 600CC going to be enough to pull me adequetly. Being that I started on a 1000 (which I mainly bought because I thought I needed that much bike at the time due to my weight), combined with the fact that I have never even ridden anything smaller than that, I just wanted some honest opinions on if I really need to go that route or can I calm it down a little. Since I am a little older now, and a little wiser I want to ride the bike for fun. Even when I owned the 1100, I don;t think I took real advantage of the power I had. Never really enjoyed going over 100mph or anything, it was more about the ride. It was exciting to get off the line fast sometimes, but personally I don't need the speeding tickets..Maybe I should look at a Gixxer 750...Kind of middle of the road..

You mentioned ergonomics, Is there much difference between the R1 and R6 ergonomics? I will mainly be taking it back and forth to work which is about a 40 mile trek...So I will be on it for about an hour at a time.

One last note, I appreciate the helpful responses. I am attempting to avoid becoming a "squid" at this time in my life (I have 2 kids to think about).

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:39 am
by Sev
I'd say anything from 500cc's and up will pull you just fine. I'd suggest actually sitting on the bikes to test the ergos.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:04 am
by DivideOverflow
If you are planning on a 40 mile trek, I would highly suggest you look at a more "standard" seating position. The standards are usually slightly de-tuned versions of their race-replica counter parts... but have more than enough oomph!

Something like the Yamaha FZ6 (more comfy version of the R6), the Suzuki SV650, V-Strom, Bandit or even the Katana is more comfortable than the gixxers, just a bit top heavy from what I hear. The honda Interceptor, 599, or Super Hawk. The Kawasaki Ninja 650R is a really comfy bike, not to mention sharp. If I was buying a new bike, I would probably get the 650R for sport-touring, it isn't as insanely fast as some of the other bikes but I rode my buddy's, and it was a lot of fun! and more than adequate power-wise. You could also try the kawasaki zzr600, or Z750S.

With any of these bikes I just mentioned, power wil not be an issue at all. For example, the SV650, one of the smaller bikes I listed (and has one of the lowest horsepower ratings), has about 70 rwhp, about the same as my 1984 Interceptor 700. I'm about 6'0 and 220lbs, and that much power moves me like I am nothing. I can still lift the front wheel if I wanted to, and it is faster than 95% of the cars on the road. I've had a 130lb person on the back, so that is the equiv of a 350lb rider.. the power difference is negligable.

With your 40 mile trip to work, I would go sit on bikes, and sit on them for a long time on each one to see if it will be comfortable for you over a long distance. Those race-ready bikes really cramp me up after about 10 minutes.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:21 am
by earwig
Buy a Buell Ulysses... its a very big adventure/sport bike (it almost sits like a dirt bike), decent riding position and plenty of power :) it is made for 90% street riding and 10% trails... of course you do not actually need to take it in the trails, it looks like a street bike. I wish I had one :) http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes_gear/ulysses/

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:51 am
by swatter555
I would say that the R1 is the most comfortable of the big sportbikes, if you dont mind it trying to rip your arms off.

If your moving down from a CBR1000, then just about any 600cc bike is going to feel soft on power to you. If thats ok with you then look at a Ninja 650, ZZR600, FZ6, or maybe even an SV650. The rest of the 600cc RRs are just torture racks for bigger people, that also goes for the 750.

Also far as being powerful enough to move you around, Sev is right in saying that just about any bike will do that. If you still want jaw-dropping acceleration mixed with comfort, you have to sit on an R1.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:21 am
by Dichotomous
the more sedate 600's and such will also be better for city driving where you want more usable lower end torque than having to rev it out all the time. You could also look at the SV1000s, tons of usable power and right where you want it, as well as a very comfortable position, and thats on a 6-2 tall guy tipping the 220lb scale. I belive its the same frame and tank and all as the SV650s but with a much larger and much more powerfull engine.