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Heimdall Einherjar wrote: I quite agree.

BTW I still think it's a trip that your name is so disturbingly similar to mine on another board...

"vermilion" is not uncommon to those who like video games. it's been used in many games and also in some anime.

i got mine from battle arena toshinden.

where did you get your vermilion name?

The concept looks okay except for the headlight. It looks great, but it reminds me too much of a movie I saw once where robots were killing people...not good.

I love my bandit and would totally consider getting a new one as my next bike. That's really too bad it's not getting brought here. I like everything except for how they did the passenger pegs. Hopefully those are easily removable and not integrated with the rear sets.

Just chop them off and bolt a 2gen set onto the sub-frame.

I prefer the painted tubular frame of the current bike..... This looks like sooo many other bikes out there... IN the UK it is being sold along side the Bandit and called the GSX600. Hopefully it is not the official replacement...

Curious?? so why does the rest o the world get the choice of the lot?
I've seen a number of very attractive, inexpensive bikes that simply are not available here??

someone clue a n00b in

The US New Bike Market is largely divided between SPORTBIKERS and CRUISER RIDERS. All the other bikes on the market make up a tiny percentage compared to cruisers and sportbikes.

Then you've also got the "BIGGER IS BETTER" idea that's really also a North American phenomenon. That's paired with stubbly numbnut idiots who only feel worthwhile if they can say "MY BIKE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN YOUR BIKE".

In other words, why would manufacturers want to spend time sending bikes to the states where most people don't want them? (Sending them is not the only issue, they would also have to homologize the engines for US emission standards and create the parts/supply network)

You know, You, Me and a handful of other riders who like these midsize naked bikes just aren't worth the effort. You have to convince Mr. Cruiser Dude and Mr. Sportbike Vermillion X dude that there are plenty of other bikes out there and they are worth buying and riding. They've backed us all into a corner with a relatively narrow mindset - limiting our availability.

But you caqn't blame them, really. This is capitalism at its finest. It's the world we've all created for ourselves!

To be fair it isn't really capitalism. It's environmental and consumer protection laws that keep small importers from bringing in gray market vehicles to feed the special interests.

If you want funny... when I went to buy my VW Jetta TDI in California I wound up having to buy a gray-market import from Canada. Mind you, this is a 50-state tier-II smog legal vehicle... perfectly legal to sell in California... but California has fleet emissions standards and VW didn't want to sell the TDIs here because it would screw up their fleet numbers for Nitrogen emissions. I tried buying from Nevada, Arizona, etc... but VW had instructed dealers in other states not to sell TDIs to Californians because California tracks by registrations, not sales. So I wound up with a gray-market Canadian car because nobody told VW Canada not to sell to California Customers... and there was enough demand to make it worthwhile for a dealer to do the gray-market importing of them.

Same thing hits motorcycles... an importer could bring in Bandits or 250cc sport bikes or whatever... but they'd have to go through all the emissions and safety certifications that Suzuki has to go through to be able to sell them as street-legal bikes and if it was worth it Suzuki would do it. 30-40 years ago it was much easier and there were all sorts of small-time importers that would bring in vehicles for niche markets.

there is another way to get a TDI in california. buy one from a private seller.

As a bandit rider Im kinda bummed that the US doesn't get the bandit anymore.

I do hope that the GSR600 does come to the US though im not holding out much hope for it. Most of the naked bikes coming to the US are the liter+ open class naked bikes.