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Just take the MSF...thatll give you a good start. Then you can buy a cheap used bike to practice on. You dont need to practice before the MSF, the MSF BRC is intended for those who have never touched a motorcycle.

I sure wouldnt let the kid next door borrow my bike to practice on though

i was 17 when i first got intrested in bikes, read a lot.



Proficent motorcycle riding which the link below
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/188954 ... oding=UTF8

More proficent motorcycle riding couldnt find link


are both great books about learning and will help ya out, so read a lot before ya ride. Dirtbikes are the best way to learn as you can get decently crappy ones for under a grand if you look hard, and then just ride em and get some exp before MSF, though i had no expeirence when i took MSF late my 17th year and it was still ok. Hope that helped.


JWF

Unless this has changed recently here's the deal in Ohio.

You have to have your drivers license and motorcycle learners permit to take the MSF course in Ohio.

The cost was $25. If you were under 18 and passed, the fee was returned to you. If you are under 18, you must take the course to get a motorcycle license.

You must supply your own gear. Bikes are provided.

If you pass, you do not have to take the riding portion of the DMV test.

Sign up NOW as the courses fill up fast. They may already be full up for this year. My neighbor signed up in February and the first class he could get into was in June.

Little known fact: show up anyway for the first class even if you are scheduled for a later one. If someone else does not show up, sometimes you can slide in. Those under 18 are given preference.

kberkel wrote:Thanks for the site Dragon I thought you really did need your permit before taking the MSF class.

And Dirty, the reason I'm planning so far ahead is because I don't turn 17 until the summer and I know my parents are definitely warry about it now, so I have a year to open them up to the fact that I WILL be getting a motorcycle

(also gives me more time to come up with a bunch of money )

Smart thinkin kberkel - save up - by a cheap bike that you can beat the stuffin out of (hopefully while staying safe). Learn everything you can about it - tear it down, rebuild it and learn how to ride. Then down the road you'll know what you want and know how to fix it. Plus you'll be able to afford it!

kberkel wrote:Wait.. I think if I do the MSF course, I won't have to do a skills test to get my license. This'll be easier then I thought. I'm still going to need practice though

Thanks anyways guys, sorry about the double post.

Whoa there... Slow down, grasshopper. Don't be misled. The MSF BRC includes a written test as well as a rider skill evaluation, which you must complete satisfactorily in order to PASS. Make NO mistake about that.

+1 for what Buzzz said. Wish I coulda learned on a dirtbike...that woulda been fun. Oh well...citykid...what can I say?

Edit* In addition, in order to be eligible for the "road test waiver" IIRC you absolutely need to have a valid driver's lic in addition to your MC permit.

Rook

Take MSF, get your license, then buy your own bike to practice on

SuperRookie wrote:

kberkel wrote:Wait.. I think if I do the MSF course, I won't have to do a skills test to get my license. This'll be easier then I thought. I'm still going to need practice though

Thanks anyways guys, sorry about the double post.

Whoa there... Slow down, grasshopper. Don't be misled. The MSF BRC includes a written test as well as a rider skill evaluation, which you must complete satisfactorily in order to PASS. Make NO mistake about that.

+1 for what Buzzz said. Wish I coulda learned on a dirtbike...that woulda been fun. Oh well...citykid...what can I say?

Edit* In addition, in order to be eligible for the "road test waiver" IIRC you absolutely need to have a valid driver's lic in addition to your MC permit.

Rook

Alright thanks. I know the MSF won't be easy, I was just glad that I could pass the skills test there and be done.. since they don't provide bikes to take the test at the local DMV. That would've been the hassle of the deal.

Time to get studyin I guess. I've done a lot of research already.. I just have till summer to get my permit and hopefully I can sign up for a MSF class that isn't a year away

I have my driver's license and everything too, no worries. Thanks for keeping me in line everyone

The MSF will be easy I think it is too easy.

kberkel wrote:I know the MSF won't be easy, I was just glad that I could pass the skills test there and be done...

The MSF really is easy. The hardest part, for me, was the emergency stop (I went into it too fast) and the curve (the instructor didn't like that I let off the throttle in the turn. I thought that engine braking was fine as long as you didn't physically breake but I guess not).

The written is a joke. Most of the questions had one or two answers that you could just outright eliminate (there were only three choices per question).

My favorite was:

What do you do if you notice a friend has had too much to drink and plans on driving home?
A) Take his keys from him.
B) Ignore the situation.
C) Buy him one for the road.

I chose choice C of course. Got a 95 because of it lol.


By the way this is the written at the MSF. I found the written at the DLB to be much, much harder.

JCS wrote:You have to have your drivers license and motorcycle learners permit to take the MSF course in Ohio.

Thanks for clarifying that. Good to know. I actually modified my webpage to let folks know that they do not need a permit in California. I was not aware that permits are required before taking the MSF in different states.