Mom is a 6-Figure Job

[camthepyro]

CNF2002
PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:40 am Post subject:
Sorry cam I have to disagree with you there. Now stuff like this is really just to make stay at home moms feel appreciated, especially when they find out they should be getting paid more than their husbands Wink

That's ok, I don't have a problem being disagreed with! Anyway, I understood that this was to make stay at home moms feel better about what they do, which is fine. But no one seems to care if a father feels appreciated, he's just supposed to deal with it, and I think that's wrong.

"camthepyro" - you have a very old-fashioned view of family life. I mean, it's even older than my generation. Both of my parents worked because they pretty much had to - first because they both wanted to get a higher education (costs big money) and then because they got divorced, and that's never cheap. My brother and I respected our Mom way more than our Dad because he was a big jerk. It was our Mom who gave us advice and guided us in our life. Respect is not gender-specific, nor is it common to any one situation. It's all in how people treat each other and live their lives.

I don't think I have a very old fashioned view on family...

What I was saying in the first post was just keeping in line with their little stay at home mom story. I grew up with my both my parents working more or less full-time until they got divorced when I was 9, and we moved here (to georgia from california). Since we moved here, my parents have lived about an hour away from eachother, and I've lived with both. Both worked full-time (all though my dad spent ALOT of time without a job), and my mom went to college (just finished a couple weeks ago). Both got remarried. So I consider them pretty much equal, I don't think a women should stay in the kitchen and have the food on the table when the husband gets home from work. So I don't see how a I have an old fashioned view of family...

[Loonette]

"camthepyro" - you have a very old-fashioned view of family life.

I don't think I have a very old fashioned view on family...

What I was saying in the first post was just keeping in line with their little stay at home mom story. I grew up with my both my parents working more or less full-time until they got divorced when I was 9, and we moved here (to georgia from california). Since we moved here, my parents have lived about an hour away from eachother, and I've lived with both. Both worked full-time (all though my dad spent ALOT of time without a job), and my mom went to college (just finished a couple weeks ago). Both got remarried. So I consider them pretty much equal, I don't think a women should stay in the kitchen and have the food on the table when the husband gets home from work. So I don't see how a I have an old fashioned view of family...

What you just posted is a bit different than what you posted previously - in concept anyway. You had said...
Think about it, when you were a kid (mostly talking about guys here), who did you respect more? Most likely, unless you had some sort of family issues, your father. He put food on the table, paid the heater bill, and still had time to talk to you if you needed his advice. Who had the hard job of punishing you? Usually the father, I guarantee any mentally healthy man, does not enjoy punishing his kids.

To me it sounded like the old "wait 'til your father gets home" idea of discipline in the home. As if the mother has no control or respect in her own home. You were saying that most guys would agree that they respected their dad more. Which is it? Dad gets more respect or the parents are equal? You've sort of confused me as to what you really believe.

Cheers,
Loonette

[camthepyro]

Well, as far as the respect thing, I meant more of the "do you want me to tell your father what you did?" thing alot of moms will do. Like you usually go to your mom for like emotional support, if you want to be comforted. You go to your dad for advice and such. Maybe my views are messed up, I don't know. But I didn't mean that you shouldn't respect your mother, I guess my choice of word was bad. I don't know.

And the reason it was different in concept, was that my first post was just keeping in line with the stay at home mom thing. I don't think most families have stay at home moms anymore, so that doesn't really apply to most people.

But I've personally (and I thought this was true for most people, maybe not) thought that the father works very hard for family, and gets very little recognition for it.

[CNF2002]

Your views probably are messed up, cam...hehe.

Seriously, there have been a lot of social changes in the past 50 years. Women are taking on new roles and breaking old stereotypes. They are no longer the 'housewives', they can be the breadwinners too and its perfectly acceptable.

But other stereotypes have stuck, and stereotypes for men have not changed. Women are still seen as naturally-superior parental figures (even Andrea Yates got sympathy when she brutally murdered all her children). Men are seen are bumbling idiots who can't figure out how a diaper works, only cares about watching football and is emotionally unavailable to his kids.

Eventually, I hope, fathers day becomes just as important as mothers day.

But, I would like to point out, most of the mothers day hype is just marketing, because corporations know women like to get gifts and men are expected to spend big bucks on their ladies on any given holiday. So mother's day 'gifts' are given the spotlight. Every mother will feel appreciated when you give them a new cellphone or camcorder (oh please!) and the flower business makes a fortune on mothers day (but see no revenue from fathers day).

What we need is a 'parents day'...where parents together are really appreciated for the team that they are, and commercials should tell kids to clean their room for once. That would be a gift.