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VermilionX wrote:
anyway... some people are just not meant to start on high powered bikes.

i dont think there is anyone, ever who should start riding a busa if they have no expiercnce, its just stupid.




JWF

Sevulturus wrote:

VermilionX wrote:

kabob983 wrote:Yeah, he crashed into a guard rail, no one else was involved. Some lady saw him fly by a few minutes before she came upon their crash.

well that's just dumb. i don't blame his decision to get a busa. people like him shouldn't ride at all no matter what the bike.

Didn't you hit a guard rail riding by yourself?

+1 you hit a rail guard, on a big bike so other than the speed, whats the difference?. you dont blame his decision to get a busa, i do. if he was smart and thought about his safety and had started on a managable bike, he probably would have had the sense to not ride outside of his limits. so is the busa directly to blame, not entirley, id blame his lack of resposibility and maturitiy.


JWF

Sevulturus wrote: Didn't you hit a guard rail riding by yourself?

JWF505 wrote:
+1 you hit a rail guard, on a big bike so other than the speed, whats the difference?.

JWF

yes, and you guys know the story.

downhill decreasing radius turn + loose gravel + new rider = crash

i got caught off-guarded by it, easy mistake to make for new riders regardless of the bike size.

VermilionX wrote:

Sevulturus wrote: Didn't you hit a guard rail riding by yourself?

yes, and you know the story.

downhill decreasing radius turn + loose gravel + new rider = crash

i got caught off-guarded by it, easy mistake to make for new riders regardless of the bike size.

ya, we know what happened, he wasent asking about it, he was wondering how you think it was stupid and how someone who hits a guard rail by himself shouldnt be riding when you yourself did such a thing.


JWF

JWF505 wrote:
ya, we know what happened, he wasent asking about it, he was wondering how you think it was stupid and how someone who hits a guard rail by himself shouldnt be riding when you yourself did such a thing.

JWF

he was flying by (probably at reckless speed) like the lady said.

i wasn't gunning the throttle when i messed up on that decreasing radius turn. i was riding at a mellow pace but then i ran too close to the edge and hit some loose gravel.

There were several factors I'm sure. His decision to buy a Hayabusa was the instigator of the whole thing really. But once that deed was done, there were several others. Speed first and foremost. Lack of riding experience. Having someone else riding on the back of his bike. Riding at night. Etc, etc, etc.

And don't judge him so quickly Verm. He made a mistake and he will suffer the consiquences but many people have. Who's to say he's unfit for riding? He may never have the desire or ability to do it again, but if he tries again, takes the MSF course, gets a more managable bike, gets proper safety gear. Who knows, he could turn out to be a fine rider!

kabob983 wrote:There were several factors I'm sure. His decision to buy a Hayabusa was the instigator of the whole thing really. But once that deed was done, there were several others. Speed first and foremost. Lack of riding experience. Having someone else riding on the back of his bike. Riding at night. Etc, etc, etc.

And don't judge him so quickly Verm. He made a mistake and he will suffer the consiquences but many people have. Who's to say he's unfit for riding? He may never have the desire or ability to do it again, but if he tries again, takes the MSF course, gets a more managable bike, gets proper safety gear. Who knows, he could turn out to be a fine rider!

yeah sorry about that, i just said that bec you posted he was flying by.

i do fly bys too but only when i see the coast is clear

VermilionX wrote:

JWF505 wrote:
ya, we know what happened, he wasent asking about it, he was wondering how you think it was stupid and how someone who hits a guard rail by himself shouldnt be riding when you yourself did such a thing.

JWF

he was flying by (probably at reckless speed) like the lady said.

i wasn't gunning the throttle when i messed up on that decreasing radius turn. i was riding at a mellow pace but then i ran too close to the edge and hit some loose gravel.

I've been told that I'm flying when I'm doing 10kmh over the speed limit. Remember, to a non-rider a bike looks like it's going WAY faster then it actually is. Something to do with the small size, loud sound, and lack of experience people have with bikes.

So 3rd hand knowledge of his speed isn't proof that he was speeding.

Sevulturus wrote: I've been told that I'm flying when I'm doing 10kmh over the speed limit. Remember, to a non-rider a bike looks like it's going WAY faster then it actually is. Something to do with the small size, loud sound, and lack of experience people have with bikes.

So 3rd hand knowledge of his speed isn't proof that he was speeding.

fair enough.

sorry i jumped to a conclusion.