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Posted: **Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:06 pm**

I haven't heard Neil's new album. I do like when bands use their position to write/sing about political issues (even if I don't agree with them). It's a nice change from the usual boy meets girl, boy loses girl krap.

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:41 am**

dieziege wrote:I haven't willingly listened to broadcase radio in years. Haven't owned a TV in a decade or so. Mass media is not my thing. If I can't download it I'm not interested. Sadly, I don't control the radios in public spaces. Restaurants have radios and TVs without redily accessible controls. I don't like it but I've got to live with it. That's my burden... a burden made heavier by the likes of Young, Cher, Diamond, McCartney, and other... I don't know if you can call them burn-outs but "people whose moment, if it needed to exist at all, should have ended decades ago" covers it.

Resources he clearly has... just to have stayed alive this long must've taken some serious cash for top-notch bodyguards. Talent, on the other hand, is more subjective... perhaps... perhaps I can live with agreeing he has talent (at least in the abstract sense) so long as we also observe that he lacks the courtesy to hire a decent singer to demonstrate that talent. Those two facts cancel out though. Sort of like someone who could be a world class athlete except he eats too much and weighs 423 pounds. If he corrected the one you might see the other, but will it ever happen?

If I was Canadian there might be reason for me to pretend to like him... but I'm not so there isn't so I don't. I was trying to give Pete an out.

Type O Negative has a lot of good covers... they even make U2's Mysterious Ways sound good! That takes real talent. These Boots are Made for Walkin is another they've covered well. Their crowning achievement though was a medly of beatles tunes that was actually enjoyable. Talk about turning lemons into lemonaid! My helmet's off to them.

Personally I wouldn't hang out at a place where they play neil diamond or cher. I just don't swing that way. But more power to someone if they want to. But I will agree to Cher, Diamond AND McCartney needing to hang it up.

Abstract talent is talent too....I can respect that you don't like his singing, that is a matter of opinion. But to say he is not talented is like saying Micheal Jordan can't play basketball, just becuase you dont like basket ball. I like his singing, it's more raw and real then a lot of overproduced digitally enhanced krap that is out there. But that is a matter of opinion too and therefore a stupid thing to keep arguing about.

A lot of his music is about the USA so (assuming that you live in the states) maybe you should pretend to like him. If pretending to like like somthing to be patriotic or something floats your boat.

Pete don't need an out, he can like whatever he wants to like. He is a big boy now that can make decisions for himself. Got himself a cruiser and everything! We are all so proud of pete.

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:08 am**

Seems rather hypocrytical for you to be on a internet website after those comments doesn't it?

dieziege wrote:I haven't willingly listened to broadcase radio in years. Haven't owned a TV in a decade or so. Mass media is not my thing. If I can't download it I'm not interested. Sadly, I don't control the radios in public spaces. Restaurants have radios and TVs without redily accessible controls. I don't like it but I've got to live with it. That's my burden... a burden made heavier by the likes of Young, Cher, Diamond, McCartney, and other... I don't know if you can call them burn-outs but "people whose moment, if it needed to exist at all, should have ended decades ago" covers it.

Resources he clearly has... just to have stayed alive this long must've taken some serious cash for top-notch bodyguards. Talent, on the other hand, is more subjective... perhaps... perhaps I can live with agreeing he has talent (at least in the abstract sense) so long as we also observe that he lacks the courtesy to hire a decent singer to demonstrate that talent. Those two facts cancel out though. Sort of like someone who could be a world class athlete except he eats too much and weighs 423 pounds. If he corrected the one you might see the other, but will it ever happen?

If I was Canadian there might be reason for me to pretend to like him... but I'm not so there isn't so I don't. I was trying to give Pete an out.

Type O Negative has a lot of good covers... they even make U2's Mysterious Ways sound good! That takes real talent. These Boots are Made for Walkin is another they've covered well. Their crowning achievement though was a medly of beatles tunes that was actually enjoyable. Talk about turning lemons into lemonaid! My helmet's off to them.

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:37 am**

Whachu talkin' 'bout basshole?

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:58 am**

well you don't listen to radio, watch TV or other mass media but yet you have an internet connection the mother of all mass media. Trying to figure out what you're trying to say by that.

dieziege wrote:Whachu talkin' 'bout basshole?

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:53 am**

Ahh... distribution of media 101 time....

Mass Media refers to broadcast media, where a single work, be it a live audio or video transmission, a printed article, or any other type of work, which is distributed verbatim to many individuals who all experience largely the same work in the same fashion. This may be done via a newspaper or magazine, the transmission of a prerecorded musical performance, RF broadcasting, the internet, etc.

The internet can provide a transport for mass media. However, it better known for its ability to offer a transport for "narrowcast" media... that is to say content tailored to a specific individual or small group of individuals. Examples of this narrowcasting include message groups, forums, email, chat, video and audio conferencing, letters, et cetera ad nausium.

Beyond that... I said I didn't receive mass media... I never said I didn't perpetrate it on others.

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:07 pm**

Nice way to dance around the subject. All those who understand that please pm me with readers digest version.

dieziege wrote:Ahh... distribution of media 101 time....

Mass Media refers to broadcast media, where a single work, be it a live audio or video transmission, a printed article, or any other type of work, which is distributed verbatim to many individuals who all experience largely the same work in the same fashion. This may be done via a newspaper or magazine, the transmission of a prerecorded musical performance, RF broadcasting, the internet, etc.

The internet can provide a transport for mass media. However, it better known for its ability to offer a transport for "narrowcast" media... that is to say content tailored to a specific individual or small group of individuals. Examples of this narrowcasting include message groups, forums, email, chat, video and audio conferencing, letters, et cetera ad nausium.

Beyond that... I said I didn't receive mass media... I never said I didn't perpetrate it on others.

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:18 pm**

Reader's digest version: Internet ain't mass media... proof: we're using it to communicate Mano-a-mano (assuming you use a keyboard).

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:20 pm**

but it is available for anyone to view at any given time for as long as they want by as many different people who wish to view it correct?

dieziege wrote:Reader's digest version: Internet ain't mass media... proof: we're using it to communicate Mano-a-mano (assuming you use a keyboard).

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:32 pm**

Some of it is "available to view". Other parts are available to write. Others aren't available for either.

I mostly create Internet content myself...

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