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#11 Unread post by **scan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:09 am

basshole wrote:none of the other free site I go to have pop ups. I can't stand the things. So if the other free motorcycle boards don't have them, why does this on have to have them?

There is no such thing as a free site. You may not have to pay anything or see any adds, but someone is paying for the disk space, and the internet hookup. I wish everyone would just deal with the reality of the situation. The arrangement here is Mike gets paid by the ads we see. Since they pay TMW bills and that is the arrangement Mike made to keep us in disk space and Internet access, so everyone should just deal with it.

Now I bet if you wanted to provide disk space and public access to a computer of yours, he'd be more than glad to move to you as a provider. How do other free sites do it without ads? I don't know. Maybe you could research that for mike in your "free" time.

dieziege · #12 Unread post by **dieziege** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:33 am

What I've always done is subsidized the sites myself out of pocket. I pay about $150/mo for my colo'd server... yeah, it chews into the bottom line but I consider it worthwhile. That's where I keep my photo archive, the few sites I run, the mailing lists I host, and so on.

I used to run them off my employer's T1s, but that always created a problem with having to switch every time I switched jobs... or having to be on friendly terms with ex employers. I ran one server at an ex employer for three years after I left... the others usually drew the line at about six months. My last employer would've been happy to keep it going for years but they had a massive outage on a Friday night and it wasn't worth it to them to go in and fix it... so I switched to a commercial colo that weekend to get my email and sites back up.

It's not that big a deal if you are employed... but I see nothing wrong with someone making money off their effort either....even if it means annoying ads.

CNF2002 · #13 Unread post by **CNF2002** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:11 am

What do you get for a 150/mo server? I pay $10/mo for my server with plenty of storage (though not into the high GB range or anything) to run several sites/boards off of and about 200GB bw/mo.

basshole · #14 Unread post by **basshole** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:27 am

Hey I have no problem re-couping cost. knock yourself out. Maybe a sticky or something that effect letting poeple know why it is like it is rather than have a post like this come up every 6 months and people getting offended by it. I'll just say pop ups are annoying and leave it at that.

dieziege · #15 Unread post by **dieziege** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:45 am

CNF2002 wrote:What do you get for a 150/mo server? I pay $10/mo for my server with plenty of storage (though not into the high GB range or anything) to run several sites/boards off of and about 200GB bw/mo.

Not enough.

Seriously, it's just a standard colo'd server... Athlon CPU, 160BG of HDD, ~2TB bw/mo... I installed Debian on it first thing 'cause I've been admining deb boxen since the 90s and then slapped whatever software I wanted.

I'm a bit of a control freak in some ways.

CNF2002 · #16 Unread post by **CNF2002** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:21 am

I wonder how much bandwidth TW uses a month

J.R. Bob Dobbs · Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:06 pm

Those popups are causing errors that are killing my punch-card tube-type pc. This is the only site I visit where popups get thru. I've gone from visiting several times a day to about once a week. Going thru withdrawal right now but it's easing.

Mintbread · Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:19 pm

scanevalexec wrote: There is no such thing as a free site.

There is no such thing as free internet either. I subscribe to pay TV to avoid advertisements and I also pay for a good internet connection with the intent to do the same.

#19 Unread post by **sv-wolf** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:02 pm

NorthernPete wrote:Come on guys, we all get a few pop ups

viewtopic.php?t=13256

also have a look see at this viewtopic.php?t=13502

I don't mind getting the pop-ups if they help the site. But what bothers me is that the sheer quantity of them (and there seem to be more and more all the time) suggests that there are a lot of spyware progammes being downloaded into my system. If I run my spyware cleaner after being on TMW for any length of time it always picks up dozens of the little beasts.

I've now got one pop-up ad that will not go away. It's a 'pop under' but it sits on my desktop so I can't access it. The only way to get it to go away is to log off Windows and log back on again.

#20 Unread post by **scan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:46 pm

sv-wolf wrote:
NorthernPete wrote:Come on guys, we all get a few pop ups

viewtopic.php?t=13256

also have a look see at this viewtopic.php?t=13502
I've now got one pop-up ad that will not go away. It's a 'pop under' but it sits on my desktop so I can't access it. The only way to get it to go away is to log off Windows and log back on again.

You should talk to Mike about anything like that. He does not want to support anything that would pester users other than directly from the site. I'm sure of this point. If you can tell him who the advertiser is, he would eliminate them, as he did with the laughing clown when a few of us complained about how annoying it is. Give it a try. Mike is a nice guy.

Also, if we had enough people who wanted to pay for a membership at enough value maybe we could eliminate this problem all together. What would it be worth to have a premium account with no ads. Maybe Mike could figure out how that would work. I'm glad to just close the ads and I get no ill effect on my systems (4 or 5 different configurations).