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[quote="sharpmagna"]EFI is better than carbeurated because it handle the changes in the environment better than a carb bike. If you go to higher elevation, the air gets thinner and the bike starts to run very rich. quote]

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I live in CO and ride often from 5K ft to well over 10K ft elevation. I bought the bike I did in big part due to the fuel injection. Learned from snowmobiling what a pain it was to have the sled carbs set up special for high elevation and how hot the plugs got if I rode at lower elevation. For my circumstance just not worth the hassle. I found the fuel injection to perform very well at high mountain passes while the carb bikes slugged it along trying to get enough O2 to breathe for the setup they had.

If you get a bike with carbs, to get the best performance - make sure to have it jetted properly for the elevation you plan to ride most in (easy if you live in the mid-west.) It makes a huge difference.

Thanks so much everyone for the information.

The carb vs injection explains why sometimes during the weekend my bike wasn't very happy to be restarted at some viewpoints. We were riding in the mountains.

I can see the benefit of going fuel injected and liquid cooled for my next bike.

After I readed the past post, I think I made a good decision buying the M50 Boulevard. My principal point was the 150 cc more for a few bucks, and I didnt have idea, how important is the fuel injection and the liquid cooled, I know only that´s better than carbs and air.....

Another thing that I read is better is the shaft final-drive, but I don´t know why...... Only that needs less services.......

BAJACRUISER wrote:After I readed the past post, I think I made a good decision buying the M50 Boulevard. My principal point was the 150 cc more for a few bucks, and I didnt have idea, how important is the fuel injection and the liquid cooled, I know only that´s better than carbs and air.....

Another thing that I read is better is the shaft final-drive, but I don´t know why...... Only that needs less services.......

It's all horses for courses...

Personally I like it aircooled, carbretted and chain drive - but thats because I am more confident waving wrenches at primitive engines*

A chain drive requires regular fettling to make sure the chain has the enough tension - once a week or so is plenty**

A shaft drive is more or less maintainence free, however when it goes it's a biggish job to replace rather than the 20 minutes or so it takes to fit a new chain.


* The irony here is that I am riding the CX which is watercooled and shaft driven.
** Dependant on mileage

Kal wrote:Personally I like it aircooled, carbretted and chain drive - but thats because I am more confident waving wrenches at primitive engines*

Just what we needed a mechanic cheerleader... stop waving them, and start wrenching

BAJACRUISER wrote:When I was looking for my bike, the Vstar Classic, was an option, but I preferred to paid 200 usd more and have a 800 cc, fuel injection and liquid cooled, for the Suzuki Boulevard M50......
In my opinion, it is a better choice for a little more bucks. I hope, I choosed well......

Those were the exact 2 bikes I considered, and the price difference was $1100, not $200. Yes, the M50 has fuel injection and is liquid cooled, but the V-Star is way better looking and for that price difference? It was a no-brainer for me.

Plus, low-tech bikes are good for learning to do repairs and maintenance.

BTW, everyone thinks my bike is huge.

jfeaz wrote:

BAJACRUISER wrote:When I was looking for my bike, the Vstar Classic, was an option, but I preferred to paid 200 usd more and have a 800 cc, fuel injection and liquid cooled, for the Suzuki Boulevard M50......
In my opinion, it is a better choice for a little more bucks. I hope, I choosed well......

Those were the exact 2 bikes I considered, and the price difference was $1100, not $200. Yes, the M50 has fuel injection and is liquid cooled, but the V-Star is way better looking and for that price difference? It was a no-brainer for me.

Plus, low-tech bikes are good for learning to do repairs and maintenance.

BTW, everyone thinks my bike is huge.

The price difference between the 650 Classic and the C50 is $600.00.

ZooTech wrote:

jfeaz wrote:

BAJACRUISER wrote:When I was looking for my bike, the Vstar Classic, was an option, but I preferred to paid 200 usd more and have a 800 cc, fuel injection and liquid cooled, for the Suzuki Boulevard M50......
In my opinion, it is a better choice for a little more bucks. I hope, I choosed well......

Those were the exact 2 bikes I considered, and the price difference was $1100, not $200. Yes, the M50 has fuel injection and is liquid cooled, but the V-Star is way better looking and for that price difference? It was a no-brainer for me.

Plus, low-tech bikes are good for learning to do repairs and maintenance.

BTW, everyone thinks my bike is huge.

The price difference between the 650 Classic and the C50 is $600.00.

Here in Mexico, the price of XVS650A VSTAR CLASICA is 92,000 pesos (8,364 usd) and the Boulevard M50 black is 94,900 pesos (8,627 usd) including taxes, the diference is about 263 dolars....

I love everything about the M50 but the front tire. It makes the rest of the bike look fugly. I actually liked the look of the maurader alot better than the M-50. If only they could go back to that design or combine the looks of the M50 and the S50. The V-Star looks better but even still I'd prefer the M50/C50 because of the Fuel injection alone.