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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:03 pm
by VermilionX
Kal wrote:I am looking forward to this...
me too...
im $1000 short though...
http://www.gpsuspension.com/services/quotes/gsxr750.php
then once i have that coupled w/ some racing slicks... i'll be able to drag elbows.
seriously though... i'll stick to learning to drag knees w/ my new corsa tire once i install them.
if i can't drag knees w/ the corsa... i might as well quit riding.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:28 pm
by kellanv
good lord kid, you will never learn...
It must be a sad existance when you think that stuff you have to buy determines your ability...
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:38 pm
by VermilionX
kellanv wrote:
It must be a sad existance when you think that stuff you have to buy determines your ability...
you misunderstood me.
i already repeated it many times... the stock can't be adjusted to my weight. believe me... if it could be adjusted... i wouldn't think of getting it upgraded until later.
and yes, it will help me improve.
suspension goes a long way in riding too, not just in racing.
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:32 pm
by Mintbread
The Crimson Rider® wrote:maybe this will help...
it's that thing that looks like an inverted U on the bottom of this pic. anybody know what that is called?

It is part of the shock and is what mounts it to the bike. It is not an add on, it is a necessary component.
Raising the rear on a GSX-R will affect nothing more than the stability of the bike at high speed, and not for the better.
My question is why can some people ride a stock GSX-R with stock tyres, stock suspension and stock sticker kit and
still drag a knee through a corner?
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:45 pm
by VermilionX
Mintbread wrote:
It is part of the shock and is what mounts it to the bike. It is not an add on, it is a necessary component.
Raising the rear on a GSX-R will affect nothing more than the stability of the bike at high speed, and not for the better.
My question is why can some people ride a stock GSX-R with stock tyres, stock suspension and stock sticker kit and still drag a knee through a corner?
then why did that racer tell me to get one for my bike.
he had the same bike. i saw it since i was talking to him on his pit area and he had a 750 K6 trackbike and an 1K K4 trackbike.
unless i misundersood what part he was talking about. i think he showed me that component and i remember that's what it looked like.
maybe there's part wher you can insert in between and that's what he meant?
regarding your stock dragging knee comment...
like i said... the stock ones leave little room for error. so if i could practice on my bike w/ a higher margin of safety, then i'll take it rather than risk it w/ stock settings.
just like a steering damper... if it helps avoid tank slappers then i'll use it.
just like slipper clutch... if it helps avoid severe engine braking then i'll use it.
i have a steering damper and slipper clutch already. so im cool w/ that, they're not the best but it working for me right now.
stock tires... it's not working very well for me.
stock suspension... not working for my weight.
that's why i want better ones. im not just wanting them to have cool upgrades.
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:57 pm
by Kal
You have a very "messed" up idea of what your bike can do.
There are competive privateer racers who take a bike from the dealers, strip the lights and other un-needed componants from it and then actually race them.
As they are. Competively.
In no way are you even close to pushing the envelope on that bike.
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:12 pm
by VermilionX
Kal wrote:You have a very "messed" up idea of what your bike can do.
There are competive privateer racers who take a bike from the dealers, strip the lights and other un-needed componants from it and then actually race them.
As they are. Competively.
In no way are you even close to pushing the envelope on that bike.
are you sure? i wanna see a guy race w/ stock suspension settings and stock tires and still haul a$$.
i can believe if it if he was just doing trackdays... but not racing.
besides... like you pointed out... they're pros and im not. that's the difference.
like i said... i'd rather have a larger room for error than risk it. having stickier tires will help my confidence too.
my stock tires have let me down several times. not enough to make me crash but the sliding is killing my confidence and this latest slide almost crashed me and i think it was just pure luck that i saved it.
and yes, im sure my maintenance throttle is fine before it slid on me all those times.
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:14 pm
by Mintbread
A poor tradesman always blames his tools...
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:16 pm
by NorthernPete
My head hurts just reading this stuff sometimes......
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:17 pm
by VermilionX
Mintbread wrote:A poor tradesman always blames his tools...
maybe it was the road surface too... i dunno.
but what i do know is that my maintenance throttle was fine before the slide.
so that leaves either the road or my tires.
and pls spare me your insults of blaming my tools... i admit it if it was my error. like when i rode over the gravel patch w/ too much speed. it was my mistake, i don't blame the tires or the gravel. i messed up plain and simple.