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Kal wrote:
For now though take your time, taking your time realeasing your clutch will do your engine no harm whatsoever.

not when you're doing burnouts. if you hold your clutch too long, it will be fried, right?

The Crimson Rider® wrote:

Kal wrote:
For now though take your time, taking your time realeasing your clutch will do your engine no harm whatsoever.

not when you're doing burnouts. if you hold your clutch too long, it will be fried, right?

SERENITY NOW!!!

Yngvai X wrote:p.s i dont know what the MSF exercises are for that..

No worries. As I understand itTM the MSF like our CBT concentrates on basic maneavours of the bikes at low speed.

Cornering, figure of eights, U turns. Most courses has at least one instructor that shows off here to 'demonstrate' what is possible. he usually tools round the course on a bike a trainee was riding (they often pick the trainee that is bitching their bike is uncontrollable) at 2 miles an hour or something.

There is no secret to it really. Rather than using the throttle to regulate his speed he has that locked to whatever he feels is useful (when I've seen this done most instructors have it wide open and screaming) anyway

The instructor is controlling his speed by moving into and out of this 'Bite point' or 'friction zone'.

If you learn to play with your bite point then you too can do the 2mph circuits of the course. Easily.

The Crimson Rider® wrote:

Kal wrote:
For now though take your time, taking your time realeasing your clutch will do your engine no harm whatsoever.

not when you're doing burnouts. if you hold your clutch too long, it will be fried, right?

What?!?

A burnout (of the rear tire) is done using the front brake, nothing to do with the clutch.

ie: clutch engaged rear wheel not turning no matter how much throttle you give it. Also motorbike clutches are designed for this kind of heavy use.

So this.. 2mph course thing.. is that where you find the bite point and just give it a tiny bit of throttle? just enough to get it rolling or what?
oh and when you said practice releasing the clutch, did you mean practice finding the bite point and right after i start to roll for a little bit, release the clutch?

ZooTech wrote:SERENITY NOW!!!

Seinfield? Blood pressure?

Yngvai X wrote:So this.. 2mph course thing.. is that where you find the bite point and just give it a tiny bit of throttle? just enough to get it rolling or what?
oh and when you said practice releasing the clutch, did you mean practice finding the bite point and right after i start to roll for a little bit, release the clutch?

try power walking your bike.

power walking is when you walk the bike but you hold the clutch in the friction zone, don't release it just hold it in the friction zone, and just let the throttle idle and the bike will already move but really really slow and you walk w/ it.

it's a good friction zone practice.

I don't remember if you said whether you did or didn't and I'm too lazy to look but, have you taken the MSF? I read that you just got the bike on Friday and rode it all weekend but don't remember any mentions of the MSF.


As far as the friction zone thing is concerned, do what CR said about the power walking bit. You can't hurt yourself doing that and the worst that can happen is that your engine will die from letting the clutch out too fast.

You'll be going at idle speed so it's very controllable, too.

Ok, well have to consider I JUST started riding. ie. i dont know what friction zone is..

and no i havnt taken any courses yet, i am sep 16/17/19