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No, but that's completely impossible. It's along the same lines as a perpetual motion machine. You cannot create energy, and no machine is 100% efficient.

camthepyro wrote:No, but that's completely impossible. It's along the same lines as a perpetual motion machine. You cannot create energy, and no machine is 100% efficient.

Why? Because no one's done it? I tend to avoid using the word "impossible", and when I think of so many "impossibilities" that are now everyday goods, its silly to think so. You cannot create energy, but you can convert it. Who is to say we will not invent a machine that converts a drop of fuel into hundreds of hours of usable energy? Or convert naturally occuring forms of energy like solar radiation or magnetism into a machine that takes 2 watts of electricity to produce 5 watts?

Perpetual motion may be a theoretical impossibility, but we may be able to create practical machines that do just that using naturally occuring energy that would be unused anyway.

camthepyro wrote:^ can be done, any electrolite (like water... or beer) can provide energy.

Unfortunately, it usually takes more energy to convert the electrolytes energy to a usable form. The technology isn't there yet, but solar energy could provide electricity for electrolysis to get hydrogen (and oxygen) from water.

A friend and I used to extract hydrogen from water in using a homemade electrolysis setup. Filling a plastic bag with hydrogen and attaching a fuse was like having your own mini-Hindenberg in the back yard

High_Side wrote:Ummmmm.....what does YOUR bike have in the tank?

Currently Petrol, by the time the Petrol runs out I intend owning a Diesel bike and Landrover...

Lets just burn all the Cagers at the stake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well. just the freakin' SUV drivers for now.

Serious though. Burn 'em.

SUV's are really worthless really. No need for them in any car market.

Real SUVs have good use, for anyone in a rural community needing both a nice enclosed vehicle with truck capability.

There was a group awhile back that was burning SUVs, unfortunately.

It's hard to believe people actually managed way back before SUV's were in vogue, but we did.
As for sales figures rising for large SUV's after prices came down on fuel, it says something about the citizens of this country having a mass learning disability, as someone referred to previously. I seriously wonder if there wouldn't be revolution here if fuel availability, regardless of cost, was curtailed for some reason. It would be far worse than the so-called fuel shortage back in the 1970's to be sure. I think some people would go positively mad. For some reason, many in this country think we are entitled somehow to a greater share of the planet's natural resources than anybody else. Why this is so, I don't know, but it does seem to look that way.

Welcome back John, it's been a while!

Actually, SUVs are great transport having dogs. They're enclosed and still protected in cargo area, but don't get their dirt, mud slobber and hair on the nice seats. Dog may not matter much to some, but hey, we don't have kids for a reason

I prefer trucks. Always have, always will. SUVs limit what I can carry back there. I hate that limit.

If I had my choice I'd say we have 1 truck and 1 SUV at all times. Unfrtunately I don't have complete say in what vehicles we own (though a good majority vote)

Why not a truck and a station wagon or van?