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MotoF150 wrote:When shopping for any bike keep this in mind, the best brand of bike is a Honda, next a close 2nd is the Yamaha, then last is the cheap made generic bikes the Suzuki and the Kawasaki.

Where the heck do you come up with this... is someone feeding this to you? No way is it possible that an individual can make up all the stuff that comes from your keyboard

Honda is higher quality, its a better built bike, look at any Honda its built perfect from the frame welds to the engines, the Yamaha is a close 2nd, but look at any Suzuki or Kawasaki, look at 2 new bikes in a showroom, you will find some difference in each bike where they were assembeled different, look at the frame welds no 2 frames are the same, the forks are not centered, the gas tank mounting is different, I can sit on the same type of bike and I can feel the difference.

MotoF150 wrote:Honda is higher quality, its a better built bike, look at any Honda its built perfect from the frame welds to the engines, the Yamaha is a close 2nd, but look at any Suzuki or Kawasaki, look at 2 new bikes in a showroom, you will find some difference in each bike where they were assembeled different, look at the frame welds no 2 frames are the same, the forks are not centered, the gas tank mounting is different, I can sit on the same type of bike and I can feel the difference.

I've found quite a few little design flaws on my Honda. Nothing I'm capable of correcting. But I think you should pull your head out of your "O Ring" Moto. No one thinks you're funny any more. It's just sad really.

Moto, you're full of feces. All the Japanese frames are built on jigs and welded by robotic arms that provide consistent, repeatable, and quality welds. I toured part of the Honda assembly plant in 1975, and they were already using jigs and robots to weld frames 30 years ago. Frame components are bent and cut on jigs, too, so every single frame is darn near EXACTLY like every other frame.

Is moto for serious? I cant believe anything could come out of a rider's mouth like that!

I could understand if the bikes Moto is referring to were hand-built customs and they were different from peice to peice from each other...that's expected. But the bikes he is talking about are made with very little human element to the production process...which leaves very little room for any error to occur. Using assembly lines chock full of a robotic arsenal is one of the best ways to keep consistency on a mass production level. I find it hard to beleive that with the technology we have today that Suzuki, of all companies, would allow such a wide array of differences out of the plant. They have quite a reputation for producing quality machines, along with Honda and Yamaha.

All said, every company has problems from time to time with production consistency...it's not like it's down to one or two sole companies that "allow" it. I'm sure Honda has had a few problems in the past, and so has Yamaha. There is no "perfect" manufacturer. "Perfect" is left up to too many stipulations and opinions, it's not fact. You may hate Suzuki's and swear you can feel the difference between two seemingly exact models (which I find hard to beleive as well)...but to the next guy, there was no difference felt, and he may absolutely love Suzuki's.

No offense to anyone, just my .02 cents.

~Mike

I love my C50 SUZUKI! Moto is a moron.

MotoF150 wrote:When shopping for any bike keep this in mind, the best brand of bike is a Honda, next a close 2nd is the Yamaha, then last is the cheap made generic bikes the Suzuki and the Kawasaki.

Generic?...lol I love my generic Kawasaki. It's a 2001 and it's been an awesome starter bike for me

and as you can see, no matter what you pick there will be some jerk ready to diss it, so pick what YOU like and what fits into your budget.

i want to say thanks to y'all. the info y'all have given here has been very helpful. i have some questions that you guys brought up with your answers. if y'all don't mind helping out some more i would appreciate it.

sharpmagna wrote:For cruiser type bikes, a bike in the 650-800cc range would be a good starter. What you really want to look for is the Hp rating on a bike, Most 800cc bike have around 50hp and that is a good number to start at. It's not too powerful to get you in trouble fast, but it is enough to keep you interested.

Think Honda Shadows, suzuki c50/m50/s50 bikes, yamaha vstar, kawasaki vulcans.

thanks for explaining the cc's as it relates to hp. now, you said to look at the Hp rating. i went into a harley store shortly you posted this. i asked them about the Hp of their bikes and was told by the sales guy that i don't need to worry about Hp but torque (i believe). is that a way to divert because they don't have as much hp as other bikes or is that something else i need to know?