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Ninja 650R and SV650. And an MSF course. And a head on your shoulders, these two bikes WILL get away from you if you're a moron, just not as bad as a 600cc I-4. They WILL power wheelie, they WILL get headshake (although VERY rare), their brakes WILL lock up easily if you're not careful (specially the 650R's rear brake), and best of all, they WILL make you grin from ear to ear. I can vouch for the Ninja 650R personally, it's a great bike with a fastly growing aftermarket. And it can be both a squid-mobile AND a mini-bagger depending on how you set it up. There are fully race prepped 650R's and mini-sport touring 650R's out there. One guy on the 650r forums went so far as to fab up aluminum hard cases (along with many tour-friendly accesories). And then there's the guys with lowered front ends, runnig clip ons, pipes, etc on the street who can easily keep up with their four cylinder breathren.

And both the 650R and SV650 will eat the corners, just don't have the top end to stay with I-4's on the straights.

if you think youll outgrow a 250 (36 HP i think*) so fast get a ninja ex500 ( 50ish HP) or a Suzuki GS500F(50 ish HP).

or a Suzuki SV650 (69HP) <-- these are all standard bikes and better for a beginner

A R6 and GSXR 600 are 100 + hp, with a razor sharp throttle and annoyingly low handlebars and ride position

gsxr 1000 is I think 170 HP.

I have been riding a 16 hp, 200cc for about half a year and im still not bored of it. Does 0-60 in about 7 seconds and tops out at 90 MPH and its way fast enough for me. I think its a pretty solid bikes in terms of speed, and I still have lots to learn before getting a big bike like a SV650 or R6.

Anyways, good luck.

safety-boy wrote:

ninja79 wrote:ninja 500

+1

I went from a 636 Ninja back to a 500-R (636 was stolen ) and while the power is significantly less, it is a good, solid bike that is fun to ride. Hits 100MPH with throttle left. Or, if you like cruisers, go with the Vulcan 500 Ltd. Same engine. Good bike.

--Dave

How did your bike get stolen??

Wow, thank you for all the replies!

I might be looking into the 650R, but I might prefer something a little weaker then that. I'm not totally suicidal, I definately want some power but not too much. I have absolutely no intention of ever going past 80, but I do like acceleration. Anything in the market for that kind of interest? I guess acceleration = death ride, so perhaps I should wait on that part of the game?

Anyway, again, I really appreciate you guys responding and helpin' me out!

-Ryan

Edit: "Lets just say I have major problems with people saying that they will get bored of a 250..."

Again, I already have experience on bikes (dirt bikes that is). I definately need to brush up on my skills as it has been a few years, but I certainly have not forgotten how to clutch and get moving without stalling. While I'd love to brush up on my skills with something nice and small, it's just not worth it if I'll get right back to where I was (as far as experience) within a week or so.

Sounds like you have a champagne apetite and a Mad Dog budget. If you can't afford cash for a used bike, you can't afford down for a new bike. Riding without insurance is foolish. Just you thinking such nonsense makes me think you lack the maturity to survive on the street with any bike. Forget the dealers, look in Cycle Trader and such places. You'll get a lower price. If you cannot do your own maintenance and repairs, but plan to pay dealer prices for work done, you can't afford any bike.

It's winter. Pick up a cheap beater. Shop around, you can easily find something you can get on the road for less than $1000, repair parts, insurance, and TTL included. Since it isn't financed, you don't have to pay for anything but liability and personal injury protection for insurance, which costs me $78/year for my paid-for TW200. Full coverage for a Ninja 250 would cost me $800/year.

If you really want a new bike, go get a second job so you can afford more options than you now have.

qwerty wrote:Sounds like you have a champagne apetite and a Mad Dog budget. If you can't afford cash for a used bike, you can't afford down for a new bike. Riding without insurance is foolish. Just you thinking such nonsense makes me think you lack the maturity to survive on the street with any bike. Forget the dealers, look in Cycle Trader and such places. You'll get a lower price. If you cannot do your own maintenance and repairs, but plan to pay dealer prices for work done, you can't afford any bike.

It's winter. Pick up a cheap beater. Shop around, you can easily find something you can get on the road for less than $1000, repair parts, insurance, and TTL included. Since it isn't financed, you don't have to pay for anything but liability and personal injury protection for insurance, which costs me $78/year for my paid-for TW200. Full coverage for a Ninja 250 would cost me $800/year.

If you really want a new bike, go get a second job so you can afford more options than you now have.

You gotta understand where I'm coming from. I've wanted a bike for years, literally. I've been very patient and for a long time. I've said over and over again that I'll get around to it one day.. but quite frankly, I've lost my patience and I want to do it now or it quite frankly won't ever happen. It's just not possible for me to save up that kind of money within any sort of reasonable amount of time. I work full-time already and have no extra time for a second job with other major priorities in my life. I can slide over a hundred or so a month though. It's the only way I can afford a bike at this time in my life. I'd rather do it like that then not at all, you get me?

I already pay insurance on my car, so paying it on a bike as well is just gonna put me more in the hole. I honestly don't think it's totally necessary for me to pay insurance on a bike considering I'm not some suicidal prick trying to share my brains with the asphalt. I just want to joy ride. "That's what they all say, then they find theirself wrecked." Let me deal with that. Again, I've been patient for a long time and I want to finally treat myself to some kind of enjoyment in my oh-so repetitive life.

edit: I didn't mean to bark at you, just a bit upsetting to be shot down when I'm trying my best to get into something I've only been able to dream about for years.. but unfortunately I do not have the funds to afford all the extras, only the cream filling.. It's time for me to indulge.

Wanting a bike for a long time means nothing. Actually saving and preparing for ownership of a bikes says volumes. You've financially done nothing to prepare yourself to own a bike. That's not a real good plan, and impatience is not a good reason.


Think long and hard, but barely scraping by for a toy is not smart. And rethink your position on us squashing your hopes and dreams. We're trying to give you advice and steer you clear from getting yourself into a big mess.

Shorts wrote:Wanting a bike for a long time means nothing. Actually saving and preparing for ownership of a bikes says volumes. You've financially done nothing to prepare yourself to own a bike. That's not a real good plan, and impatience is not a good reason.


Think long and hard, but barely scraping by for a toy is not smart. And rethink your position on us squashing your hopes and dreams. We're trying to give you advice and steer you clear from getting yourself into a big mess.

You've got all the answers. You seem to understand my financial situation perfectly.

Way to miss my points. I'm through here. I know what I'm going to do and I'm not going to argue over an internet chat whether my reasons are justified or if I'm responsible enough for a motorcycle.

I appreciate you looking out, but my decision was already made when I came to this forum. I was only asking for help regarding what kind of bike I should be riding.

If this topic could be closed to avoid and further derailment, that'd be wonderful.

Thanks again,
Ryan

edit: I apologize for my attitude, but I'm very tired and I must get my 4 hours of sleep before another day in the "poo poo" hole I call my job.

You've provided plenty of information that says you are not financially ready. My answer is, get money.

Do what you want, but come crying later about a wrecked or repoed bike and no money to do anything about it, and well, I won't say I told you so, but I won't lose a wink of sleep over your problems.

You keep apologizing for your attitude yet you keep on spouting the same static. Get real. You were the firtst to go Pissula on folks. Don't whine when you get it back. Oh wait, I apologize, I feel like being a real "O Ring" today, for no good reason other than it's Thursday...err, I'm wearing pink underwear...mmm, I lifted weights and have muscular hormones blasting through my veins...eeeto, I ate mac and cheese for lunch...

If you're not going over 80 mph then a 50cc-125cc scooter will do.