eh??

[DivideOverflow]

Sev, I might have to disagree with you there. Not that you won't be able to ride it at all, but the gears are pretty damn tall on a 1000cc bike!

With 33hp, you would max out the bike in first gear. You definitely wouldn't be able to use all 6 gears either... So my question is what do you consider "rideable"? Using only 2 of the bike's gears? My 250 had about 30hp, and it used very short gears... the gearing ran out at about 90mph, as do most bikes designed with 33hp in mind.

On a bike that is geared for 160+mph... I dunno, I think the restriction will really limit the torque enough to make it difficult to actually get the bike moving. Now, with a gear change, it might be better, but I find the first gears on those bikes long enough when using an unrestricted engine! Talk about clutch slipping to get it moving.

[thebargie]

thanks for all the interest in my post, but ive still no real answer lol

looks like im gonna have to phone the buggers, its just that why should i pay the same insurance as someone with the same bike as me, with more than double the amount of power?

seems wrong, thanks anyway guys

[Sev]

The Six Hundred CC bike which he asked about will make 33hp at aprox 5000rpm. Which is actually very ridable. How do I know? Because I've got a 600cc inline 4 (cbr600 motor), and I can readily ride it below 5k. Hell if I wanted I could keep it under 4k without really trying. And while the gixxer will have slightly taller gearing this doesn't mean it is unridable.

In fact it's rather common over in Europe to get a Hornet and restrict it to 33hp for the first year. There is even a guy on "The Nest" who was able to keep up with some more experienced riders on unrestricted hornets on his restricted bike.

Above and beyond that a 1000cc bike will make more torque down low, especially the gixxers, which is capable of making lots of torque (why do you think there are so many gixxer drag bikes?). I'll bet money you could ride a 1000cc at under 33hp with relatively little effort.

It won't be a fun ride, and I still don't think it's a good idea for a variety of reasons, but I don't think you should be lying to him here.

[Sev]

thanks for all the interest in my post, but ive still no real answer lol

looks like im gonna have to phone the buggers, its just that why should i pay the same insurance as someone with the same bike as me, with more than double the amount of power?

seems wrong, thanks anyway guys

This is because if you trash the bike it will cost the exact same for them to replace it as if someone else had trashed their unrestricted bike. And you as a new rider are more likely to crash.

[icearrowx]

could someone tell me why you would want to limit it? even though i'm new here, my opinion would be not to limit it and just drive safely on you own...yes?no?maybe?

[Fast Eddy B]

I'll bet money you could ride a 1000cc at under 33hp with relatively little effort.

It won't be a fun ride, and I still don't think it's a good idea for a variety of reasons, but I don't think you should be lying to him here.

You may be the source I was alluding to about restriction kits. I however resent being called a liar.

I suggested that some bikes with restrictor kits can be considered 'unrideable'. You confirmed that all bikes with restrictor kits will still move, even if you have to shift them before 5000 rpm.

I would like to confirm to you that I consider this to be unrideable. Even considering that said bike will still move, using most of its (tall) gears, at legal speeds.

I have not, and will not lie about information I give in these posts. And I make sure that if I am relating second-hand information, I say so.

Good luck with your wager. I have a feeling you will win it, considering the burden of proof you require.

[Sev]

Bigger is better and all that. You need to be able to do 3 times the speed limit to have any fun.

could someone tell me why you would want to limit it? even though i'm new here, my opinion would be not to limit it and just drive safely on you own...yes?no?maybe?

Required by law to ride a bike under 33bhp in Europe for the first year. I think you're better off just getting a bike that is naturally under that, but it is possible to get resrictor kits that will limit most bikes to that.

[Lion_Lady]

cos i like the way the gixxer looks

seeing as i can only restrict something to 33 bhp anyway, engine size doesnt matter, i just want something that looks good

What you're forgetting is that this is probably your FIRST bike, not your only bike...

By installing a restrictor in such a high powered bike, you risk changing other things unseen. Unless you intend to keep all the stock parts to re-install, you also wreck the resale value of this pig in a ballerina dress.

Get something lower powered to learn on, learn how to ride the snot out of it, then get that GXR you're hankering after. By then you may actually ready to ride something even hotter.

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[Kal]

Okay for the American and other animals. If I had to put my money on it I would say that the original poster is British, he is also under the age of 21

His full Bike licence which he took on a 125 (only difference between that and the one I took is that I was on a 500 and am unrestricted) restricts him to a maximum of 3bhp for the next two years.

The most common method of restricting a bike is a couple of washers to restrict the bike fueling (I kid you not - some firms charage hundreds for this)

Now although it is a legal requirement, and although it is risking your licence many on restricted licences choose to ride unrestricted bikes and hope that if they do have an accident no-one checks the power output of their bike on a dyno.

Despite anything that you may have heard there is no offical documentation proving that a bike is restricted. Also because of how frequently people remove the restrictor kits many insurance companies are loathe to quote differently to the full fat versions.

As we are a sportsbike culture there are a lot of 'restricted' supersports bikes out on the roads, although there should be even more. General feedback is that the Bikes are more than ridable, although Bikes designed to be less than 33bhp are generally said to handle better.

Personally I can't see a need for any bike over 60-70bhp to be on a public road. Pretty much all the power over and above that is a stick waving exercise.

Should you be considering other options check this link. It has most of the Bikes that are already 33bhp and lists a lot of the Bikes that have restrictor kits available.