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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:51 am
by fireguzzi
I heard that the bad pollutants from diesel tend to just fall to the ground more then they go into the atmosphere. Is there any truth to this?

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:13 pm
by Shorts
Alright, keep the greenie hijack off my post. If you have no solution to make the truck run better, go away.


I passed along the info and we'll see how the truck runs soon enough I guess. Besides, if all else fails, keep running farm diesel :twisted:

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:30 am
by MotoF150
OK I respsct ur opinon and im not going to fight about global warming, but I would like to remind everybody that owns a motorcycle or an ATV, including myself, that we are near the top of the "o ring" list to the eviromentalists cause we own and ride bikes that pollute for no good reason other for just enjoyment, the people that are trying to save the world don't like us motorcycle and ATV owners and if we attack them, make fun of them they will use their power to make it illegal to own a bike. They are a powerfull group that sticks together and I say keep it quiet and stay on the good side of them. Thank You

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:13 am
by TR7
MotoF150 wrote:global warming is real and its happening right now, diesels are resonsible for pouring out much more C02 than gasoline engines, putting up with a small inconvience with a less polluting mix of diesel fuel is a small price to pay other then the polar ice caps melting and flooding the world!
Diesel produces LESS CO2

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:46 am
by BuzZz
TR7 wrote: ......Diesel produces LESS CO2 LESS.
......
Thank you!!!

He probably asked Pastrana about it, who didn't know, and his other good buddy, Gale Banks, wouldn't return his calls.... :roll:

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:17 pm
by BuzZz
Kay, I was watching Prairie Farm Report today (yes, I'm a Redneck Hillbilly, wanna fight about it? :lol: ) and there's a bunch of students making bio-diesel in Vermillion.

No big news, but one of the things they mentioned was the fact that 1% bio-diesel mixed with regular pump fuel will increase fuel quality to far surpass even pre-ULSD lubrication levels.

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:13 pm
by Shorts
BuzZz wrote:Kay, I was watching Prairie Farm Report today (yes, I'm a Redneck Hillbilly, wanna fight about it? :lol: ) and there's a bunch of students making bio-diesel in Vermillion.

No big news, but one of the things they mentioned was the fact that 1% bio-diesel mixed with regular pump fuel will increase fuel quality to far surpass even pre-ULSD lubrication levels.
Gratsi BuzZz. You are correct. In fact, I guess I'll post the additives I've found to be most often used for the lubrication (hehe that's right! I said "lubrication"!). Lubing of the injection pump is important (starting with the Dodge '98year 24v trucks and up. 12v diesels, 1st gen., I believe are lubed by the engine oil). Unfortunately this ULSD doesn't provide enough lubrication for the pumps. This part know as VP44, when it fails from pushing this crap..I mean, fuel, will cost about a thousand dollars to replace.

- 2 stroke oil. Make sure it is the TC-W3 (?)rated kind. 1qt per fill up (34-36gal)

- Power Service

- Marvel Mystery Oil

- Stanadyne

- B20, Biodiesel

- Kerosene - 1gal per 15gal of diesel


I don't konw what the Ford and Chevy guys ae doing or what their issues are. This should take care of the Dodge CTDs though.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:46 am
by TR7
Im in the old ford and the new chevy camp. And right on with the 1% bio, and injection pump lube. On the new chevy (06 duramax), thats my fathers, we just run stanadyne in the tank as we dont want to cause any arguments should a warenty issue arise. Soon however Im going to try to start making my own bio in the garage. I also have an older ford with the 7.3 motor and indirect injection, therefore Im able to get away with burning almost whatever I want short of old furniture. Because the fuel system operarates at lower pressures and the injectors arent as sensitive (and because the truck was just about free). Currently that truck has run with about a 50/50 mix of waste veg. oil, thats been settled and filtered. Ive also run ULSD with 2-cycle oil and another tank with regular motor oil (doest smoke), and have run 30% kerosene 70% veg. oil mix. But on average, in the warm weather, its 30/70 veg. oil. ULSD. All of this works really well and the truck has since been through NJ inspection with no problems. No percieved power loss, runs quieter, still pulls my trailer just the same and gets 21mpg. If you do chose however to add bio or whatever to your truck, Id advise to carry an exrta fuel filter as the bio acts as a really good solvent and cleans the inside of your fuel system and remove any of the deposits in the tank ect. and can gum up the filter the first time you use it (or maybe the second or third, but if you dont have an extra filter in the truck thats the time your going to need it, like me) Also pay attention to the weather, veg. oil gells really easy if it gets cold out.

What kind of trucks do you guys have? Just to get an idea of what level were all on here.

Shorts - Im having trouble accepting kerosene as a lubricant.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:00 am
by TR7
Forgot to add: Just because I do it doesnt mean its a good idea. Im in no way responsible and I dont want to get yelled at if someone tries this and their truck explodes in a glorious fire or something. But if you do blow up your truck, and it is in fact glorious, well then put it up on you tube for us all to see :laughing:

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:46 am
by Shorts
TR7, Dad is running a '99 Dodge 2500 4x4 QC LWB with the 5.9. He wants to get this all straightened out by harvest time this summer. They're down in S.Tx, so temps aren't cold enough to worry about gelling...unless there'd be a freak coldfront.


The keosene I'm not real sure of. I've forgot I had registered myself on a dodge diesel forum a long while back, but I've recently taken to it again.

Check it out: dieseltruckresource.com

In the 'general discussion' forum is the sub-forum 'fuels/biodiesel/prices'. That one contains what I'm picking up.

You know, when veg oil fuel first started coming out, I wasn't real sure. Reminded me of something hippies would do for some odd reason. But I've seen a lot of it is coming mainstream. Guys are adding the plumbing into the trucks to run it in conjuction or althogether. The other day I saw on a truck show they had as veg oil tank that stands in the garage. It will filter and clean the veg oil and when you're ready, pipe it to the truck tank. It was interesting. I'm still unclear on the supply though. Do you just go to stores/restaurants and ask for their waste veg oil? Doesn't that keep the supply kinda iffy? Or do you workout some deal with shop owners for the stuff?