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blues2cruise wrote:The idea behind slowing down a bit and getting some space between you and the car in front is to give space for the tailgater to pass.
If you simply move over in your lane, the driver will try to pass you before it is safe to do so and possibly sideswipe you.

Well, then I guess it serves a dual purpose. I understood the primary reason for increasing following distance due to a tailgater to be that if the car in front of you brakes suddenly, you can slow down more gradually (than you would otherwise have to), giving the car behind you more time to react and slow down instead of making you the meat in a nasty sandwich.

Sometimes tailgaters don't want to pass, they just have no concept of how fast a bike can slow down and stop.

blues2cruise wrote:The idea behind slowing down a bit and getting some space between you and the car in front is to give space for the tailgater to pass.
If you simply move over in your lane, the driver will try to pass you before it is safe to do so and possibly sideswipe you.

If you had read your book, you would know why the luggage question is there. Keeping things low reduces your center of gravity for one thing. having the load balanced makes it easier to keep your bike balanced. It's not a mentally challenged question at all, because although you are a beginner, at some point, there is a likelihood of carrying cargo.

Although generally we are advised not to brake in a curve, there are going to be occasions when it is necessary.

Go read the book again. It will help. Better luck next time.

i do carry cargo for my clarinet, boots/shoes, and books, if you read my previous post. I bought two bags that lay over the back of my seat.

I know If i would of read my book I could of passed. I said that earlier!

That question is ambiguous, how are you supposed to know that the distance from the car behind you to me is not going to shorten drastically? These californians... the test in Wisconsin was much more straightforward and tested you on the real key factors of motorcycling and doesn't digress into useless subjects.

Just merely "knowing" what to do is hardly going to help. I have had many situations where I was "verbally taught" what to do, but I didnt put it into my riding, but who does, I mean the basic fundamentals of it we will but not every aspect of it? Its not like once you learn something through a coach you just put into play, I learn from my own mistakes, and I get gradually better and better.

and once I do get big cargo, which will be in what 1 to 10 years, I will have forgotten all the information I learned from a measly booklet I read when I was 16.

I already took the permit test 6 months ago but the only reason I am taking it again is because I just moved. I am pretty sure all the info was on my last permit test, but as you can see a person will forget small details like that which will make it useless after a few months or years.

what people end up doing in a situation is more using their instincts rather than something they learned a while back.

Browse through your MSF booklet again. I will also suggest the Proficient Motorcycle books by David Hough (did I remember that correctly?).

Part of "knowing" what to do comes from some study, not merely from riding. Yes, riding is an excellent teacher = practical experience. But reading a variety of riding books and texts will offer you various ways to safely navigate. Situations are constanly changing and you must ride to suit the conditions. So, it would be good to educate yourself so you're not left in the dark.

Shorts wrote:Browse through your MSF booklet again. I will also suggest the Proficient Motorcycle books by David Hough (did I remember that correctly?).

Part of "knowing" what to do comes from some study, not merely from riding. Yes, riding is an excellent teacher = practical experience. But reading a variety of riding books and texts will offer you various ways to safely navigate. Situations are constanly changing and you must ride to suit the conditions. So, it would be good to educate yourself so you're not left in the dark.

i know, i know, somewhere in there I said the verbal learning is a good foundation to learn off of.

Dohun wrote: i know, i know, somewhere in there I said the verbal learning is a good foundation to learn off of.

Verbal = spoken

Unless you're getting books on tape, you'll need to read.

Those are questions I'd expect to see on any permit test in any state.

Dohun wrote:
its called I took the MSF half a year ago and I took the test without even glancing at the handbooko thinking i could el passo.

We all have our goddam weaknesses and strengths and I got all the other 40 or w/e questions right. Several people in front of me and they all got 7-10 + wrong. Those are questions the average beginning motorcycles dont even think about.

I mean who the hell carries big loads as beginners, NOBODY. THE BOOKLET TEACHES YOU THE TEST, NOT THE RIDE.

EDIT: FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE TWO BAGS I RECENTLY BOUGHT. THEY ARE SADDLED RIGHT BEHIND MY BACK ON THE MOTORCYCLE. Why the hell would anyone want to keep bags low and frontward? itd probably scrape off during a turn.

If you are being tailgated to closely, and you slow down to increase the distance between you and the car in front of you, thats like saying "hey, dude in the car behind me, please run me over while I slow down a ton, when I could just go to the right of the lane or something and let you pass! wow we are all happy!'

and I thought breaking while turning was the one thing they told us to keep separated. Hows some relatively new to riding know how much brake is too little or too much, while at the angle they are at to the ground...

My point was that using logic can help you eliminate the wrong answers on a multiple choice test and have a better chance at picking the correct answer. Some of the choices they give are really mentally challenged, and like you said, you still got over 40 questions right anyway.