aiming for a Warrior.. how do I get there?

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Sev · #11 Unread post by **Sev** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:33 pm

Gonna second the S50 and M50, or intruder/marauder if you get pre-rebadged bikes.

DivideOverflow · Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:04 am

I'd start with a Vulcan 500. It has the ninja 500 motor in it, so it has a bit more power than bigger V-Twin cruisers.

If you are feeling daring, look for a used Honda Magna 750. That is the BEST "power" cruiser under 1000ccs. It uses the V-4 from honda's Interceptor line (based off the 80's VF series, not the newer V-TEC VFR series). Note: this bike does have around 80hp to the rear wheel.... it is a bit much for a beginner. However, it is easy to handle, and the power is very linear.

It will have a crapload more power than any similar sized V-Twin, but it isn't too bad to start on if you already have the basics down. At 6'1 215lbs, you should be fine on it... oh, and at your size, don't even think about the rebel. It will feel like a unicycle.

So my vote is for the Vulcan 500, with the Magna as a followup (would probably be a better second bike).

#13 Unread post by **Wrider** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:12 pm

Hey, you really do have your head on straight! You ignore moto off the line! lol Anyway, if you want the performance cruiser, go with DivideOverflow and get the Magna 750... Although I have to admit my Volusia (pre-rebadged M50) will pass up and out-accelerate anything but heavily modded 4s (WRX and EVO), Larger 6s (4.0s and such), and a good portion of V8s even... (Ford trucks, although the dodges and chevys can usually get me)
Wrider

Nibblet99 · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:49 pm

MotoF150 wrote:the Warrior is the perfect choice for you even as a new rider.

No! .... just... no
I don't even know where to start qualifying my remark, as it's against every single one of my core beliefs, on such a fundamental level.

Your trolling might be considered funny mr F150, were it not for the fact its trying to put people in harms way, when they came here looking for sound advice, for fulfilling their motorcycling ambitions.

To Dreadshawn, any of the bikes in the sticky post at the top of this forum will set you up admirably to get a better insight on the best upgrade route for you. At the end of the day, only you know how you ride. It may be that you ride the crap out of your first bike, and go straight to the warrior, or that you take 2, 3 , or more bikes to work your way there. At the end of the day, there is no set route. You just have to start somewhere sensible, gather lots of experience, then work from there depending on how you feel about your own skillset

dreadshawn · Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:24 pm

Wow, thanks so much for all the positive responses! I do admit, it is really nice to see perfect strangers show a genuine interest in helping newbies like myself find a great first bike, and thank you so much!

It took me a while, but I've finally talked myself out of being an idiot and plopping down 8,000+ on a bike that will likelybe my LAST form of transportation, if you catch my drift. In general, I realized that no matter my current experience, I do not have the skills to APPRECIATE a bike like the Road Warrior. Sure, I could probably handle it (a big MAYBE), but could I truly use it to its full potential? I asked myself that, and I realized that my answer is "no." I am too green here, and I need to gain a LOT more experience before I am good enough.

So from the bottom of my heart, thank you all very much (And my girlfriend thanks you, lol!) for helping me realize that a rider MUST start on the smaller bikes so that when the proper time comes, their dream bike is indeed everything they hoped it would be. (The thread about the poor soul who got the R1 as a first bike was a real eye-opener..)

So in short, I like the Vulcan classics and the Marauder. Well, on to the hunt!

VermilionX · Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:00 pm

dreadshawn wrote: It took me a while, but I've finally talked myself out of being an idiot and plopping down 8,000+ on a bike that will likelybe my LAST form of transportation, if you catch my drift. In general, I realized that no matter my current experience, I do not have the skills to APPRECIATE a bike like the Road Warrior. Sure, I could probably handle it (a big MAYBE), but could I truly use it to its full potential? I asked myself that, and I realized that my answer is "no." I am too green here, and I need to gain a LOT more experience before I am good enough.

1st of all, im not saying to get the warrior right away.

but you can still enjoy a bike w/o using it's full potential.

i enjoy my bike a lot and im nowhere near fully using it's potential.

anyway... i stick by my original post. get something cheap to gain confidence and then upgrade.

MotoF150 · #17 Unread post by **MotoF150** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:31 pm

yea, the Warrior is a fast bike, but that doesn't mean the new rider has to ride it fast! I believe you guys insult the intelligence of the new posters that ask a question, when you tell him NOT to buy that bike ur telling him he's too stupid to ride that bike! Ur thinking the first time he rides it, he's going to give it full throttle, fall off the bike and wreck. How do you know? My Daddy used to tell me a thief thinks everybody else is a thief so the thief thinks its OK to steal cause everybody steals. The same thing applies to the way you guys think, you guys think just because you can't handle or afraid to ride a Warrior then you think nobody else can handle the bike.

celt · #18 Unread post by **celt** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:46 am

MotoF150 wrote:yea, the Warrior is a fast bike, but that doesn't mean the new rider has to ride it fast! I believe you guys insult the intelligence of the new posters that ask a question, when you tell him NOT to buy that bike ur telling him he's too stupid to ride that bike! Ur thinking the first time he rides it, he's going to give it full throttle, fall off the bike and wreck. How do you know? My Daddy used to tell me a thief thinks everybody else is a thief so the thief thinks its OK to steal cause everybody steals. The same thing applies to the way you guys think, you guys think just because you can't handle or afraid to ride a Warrior then you think nobody else can handle the bike.

it's not about stupidity, it's about experience.

would you hand a loaded handgun to an 8 year old?

why not? because it's not safe.

heck you might find out that the child has had the knowledge and experience to handle that loaded handgun, and that child may never hurt themselves or others,

but for all intense purposes,

99.9 % of children should not be handed a loaded pistol.

the same goes for beginners on high HP bikes. is it a definite that they will harm themselves or others? no

is it statistically probable? yes.

#19 Unread post by **Big B** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:13 am

MotoF150 wrote:The same thing applies to the way you guys think, you guys think just because you can't handle or afraid to ride a Warrior then you think nobody else can handle the bike.

that may be the single biggest jackass statement i've heard from you yet moto. perhaps if you actually rode you wouldn't be such a dick. you've got to be sick if you seriously think that giving out potentially dangerous "advice" qualifies you as an expert.

oh, b.t.w. if you want to see someone "handle" a warrior, pick a place and time, i'll pull one off the showroom floor and give you a little lesson