Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:01 am
It is a free country and we are just as free to make poor decisions that gets us killed. It simply ups the odds against you instead of for you.
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There's a huge difference between the track and the street. That column was not about racing, but about why 600cc+ sportbikes are not good beginner bikes for the riding on the streethi-side wrote:He eludes to Jeremy Toye's riding an R1 out of the box and making top 10 in superbike. While some of that is true, Jeremy has been racing superbike for quite some time and has held number 1 plate at WSMC many times. The bike was also not stock. By the time he broke the top 10 it was by all means a superstock spec bike, which is in no way like a stock bike. The Ohlins suspension on that bike cost almost as the bike itself with enough dyno time to cost the average person well over $2000 (but Jeremy owns Lee's Cycles). Lastly to assume that anyone can take one of these and qualify for a superbike national, he's so far out of the realm of possibility that its not funny.
I do know Jeremy and although he is a privateer, he's also a top 15 AMA superbike racer, as well as a Macau GP and IOM TT and number 1 plate holder at WSMC, so he's not just "some privateer". The average fast expert racer can't run within 3-4 seconds of Jeremy's times, and the average rider can't run within 20 seconds of his times.
I believe the maturity level of the rider should determine what kind of bike they should get. I don't have a problem with someone recommending a smaller bike like an SV, however, if someone really wants the latest gsxr-1 million, so be it. This is a free country.
I've raced everything from small bikes (SV) to big bikes (ZX-10R) and have found myself right back in the 600 class because I love the close racing, and the control of the bike without all of the wheelspin. Small bikes will teach you corner speed and how to push the front. Big bikes will teach you how to deal with spin and big corner entrance speed.
Patience and maturity is the key and you can't regulate that.
Uhh, why?hi-side wrote:I would have a hard time listening to any expert 250R rider.
I think the point that he's trying to make is that the guy whose only experience is on a ninja 50 rider can tell you quite a bit about a 250cc motorcycle but doesn't know much of anything about a 600cc sport bike.Nalian wrote:Uhh, why?hi-side wrote:I would have a hard time listening to any expert 250R rider.
Suzuki Boulevard S40 - Cruiser $4400RZG wrote:Hence my dilemma. I had every intention of getting a 250 before the MSF class. But now I’m torn. I want to be comfortable and ride a bike that’s not going to throw me any curve balls while I learn.
Any suggestions?
Maybe, but that sure as "poo poo" isn't what he said.storysunfolding wrote:I think the point that he's trying to make is that the guy whose only experience is on a ninja 50 rider can tell you quite a bit about a 250cc motorcycle but doesn't know much of anything about a 600cc sport bike.Nalian wrote:Uhh, why?hi-side wrote:I would have a hard time listening to any expert 250R rider.
It's like a high schooler trying to tell a baby boomer what it was like to live during the 60's. He can read all he wants about it but he wasn't there.