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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:02 am
by M-O-S
Septimus wrote:I'm not sure I see the point of a second chain. If they have the proper equipment to cut through a chain (and it can be done very quietly and fairly quickly these days) they can just as easily do two.
I've never seen a bike with two chains on it here, though my best security measure is that I park my used Ninja on the same block as a nice shiny BMW 1150.
Well yeah, this is why it will give them some time to cut the strong chains.......and people will look at them like "WTf?" and u might be able to catch them.....
Damnit, the new security ways must be developed and researched!!!!
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:52 am
by Septimus
Nah, I haven't seen that one, I live in the 90s until I get around to moving to Brooklyn.
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:07 pm
by flw
If I park somewhere like a mall or place of concern, I just use the steering column lock that came with the bike. They can ride around the world to the left or just get a few big guys and later drill out the steering lock.
It just a deterant to get them to look for easier pickings. I hope.
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:06 am
by Jadien
Another good deterrant would be to park it somewhere difficult for Big-Dummy #1 and Big-Dummy #2 to get there hands on it, and tough for Big-Dummy #3 to pull the truck close to.
Obviously, if the Big-Dummy trio is given enough time and are desperate enough, they will steal it. But, hopefully with a cover, locked steering, disc-lock (w/ reminder cable), and a inconspicuous / tough to access parking spot they'll move on to something else.
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:13 pm
by ngsalvo
The number of people out and about with a truck looking to grab a bike is fairly low compared to the number of bikes out there. You're fairly safe; if your bike does get stolen, it's just bad luck.
I have found (in my old life) that cars are HEAPS easier to steal than a bike. The number of mid 80's cars out there with driver's side door locks that can be opened with a finger nail is rediculous! I'd be more worried about losing my wheels if I was in a 1986 Honda Civic with two tone paint and no left side brake light than I am about losing my shiny new yellow Hyosung GT 250R.
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:43 pm
by ofblong
you people fail to realize that the avg thief is more inclined to steal that old pos sitting there than that brand new BMW. Same thing with cars. People are more inclined to steal a ford escort than they are a porsche 911.
Chains take all of 2 seconds to cut (so 2 chains on a bike = mabye 5 seconds).
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:37 am
by Brackstone
ofblong wrote:you people fail to realize that the avg thief is more inclined to steal that old pos sitting there than that brand new BMW. Same thing with cars. People are more inclined to steal a ford escort than they are a porsche 911.
Chains take all of 2 seconds to cut (so 2 chains on a bike = mabye 5 seconds).
Why are they more inclined to steal old?
I'm a Bike newbie but I always assumed they stole whatever had the most interchangeable parts. Or are stolen bikes resold whole?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:02 am
by Super Dave
Not only motorcycles but scooters too. The thing about sport bikes and scooters is they're so light. So tie them down with a chain or something. I use a bike cable but plan on upgrading to something thicker.
Of course my bike being a purple 2001 ninja 500 with cosmetic damage, it doesn't look too inviting sitting next to a GSX1000 at work
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:53 pm
by Blood`Sentinel
Does anyone here even work in the steel cutting business?
Because sorry, but 2 seconds is not how long it takes, if you have industrial graded chains and someone was using a standard somewhat silent grinder it would take a good 10-15 minutes. If they wanted to be stupid idiots about it they would use a cut-off saw which would alert the police in the next county.
I would personally do these:
-Tie it to something big, chain it up.
-Cover it.
-Park it next to a bunch of people so if somebody DID try to pick it up and haul it away people would be like "wtf?".
-Un-plug a wire or connection on the bike to prevent somebody from turning it on somehow and stealing it.
-Park it in a place I can watch it.
Thats what I would do :] Since I am in college when I buy my motorcycle I am going to park it right next to the bus-station where there is always a good 30 people there, I am a bit worried about having my motorcycle left on campus for hours while I am in class's x.x Must develop portable steel box to house bike. XD
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:56 pm
by Blood`Sentinel
Brackstone wrote:ofblong wrote:you people fail to realize that the avg thief is more inclined to steal that old pos sitting there than that brand new BMW. Same thing with cars. People are more inclined to steal a ford escort than they are a porsche 911.
Chains take all of 2 seconds to cut (so 2 chains on a bike = mabye 5 seconds).
Why are they more inclined to steal old?
I'm a Bike newbie but I always assumed they stole whatever had the most interchangeable parts. Or are stolen bikes resold whole?
New cars like Porsche's and BMW's have transponders on them so they can be tracked by the dealerships, they are also easier to spot and harder to steal which would make a thief who doesn't enjoy getting beat up more inclined to take the smaller but safer deal of stealing your motorcycle and parting it out or making the necessary changes to sell it whole- Plus there isn't many people who own Porsches or pricey BMW's so trying to sell the parts would be more difficult, and the people who own them are generally rich and buy all their parts brand new from the auto-shop they have their vehicles serviced and worked on at.