Page 2 of 4

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:02 am
by ANDS!
ATBATT

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:08 am
by Texfire
ANDS! wrote:ATBATT
Okay that's just silly. It sounds like something you'd hear at a baseball game. "Now atbatt, Jose Conseco!" :laughing:

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:31 am
by storysunfolding
Humans are creatures of habit. Most "instinctive" responses are muscle memory. If you use the rear brake everytime you come to a stop then you're more likely to use it in an emergency situation where you don't have much time to think.

Does the front brake have more stopping power? Yes, but as long as you aren't getting the rear wheel in the air, the rear brake is doing something. While negligible, that something might turn out to be just enough to change the situation entirely.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:48 pm
by ofblong
Shorts wrote:
ofblong wrote:
Shorts wrote:Rear brake pretty much every stop.


Oh wait, who will be the generic one to say "There's a rear brake?"....come on, make my day :roll:
Whats a rear brake??????





:shooting2: ofblong
I knew I would be good for making someones day :D. Though I dont think violet suits me good so ill change it to something better.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:37 am
by macdaddy
+1 to "storysunfolding" - you don't have time to think in an emergency, and practice using front and rear brakes to threshold is important so you'll do that when you have to. I use F and R consistently when coming to a full stop for just that reason. Riding aggressively, when slowing for a corner, I only use the front. I'll use the rear only in slow speed maneuvers, dirt/gravel, etc.

Re: rear brake?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:47 am
by Kal
b!keR wrote:How you often use rear brake and in whom situations mostly?
All the time except when I am engine braking (which to be fair I do a lot of)

70/30 front/rear split to stop int he dry
50/50 front/rear split to split in incliment conditions

Often its the brake of choice when slow speed rolling up to the lights

In slow speed maneavors

During corners when I am scrubbing off speed or otherwise keeping the frame tense.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:11 pm
by Nalian
storysunfolding wrote:Humans are creatures of habit. Most "instinctive" responses are muscle memory. If you use the rear brake everytime you come to a stop then you're more likely to use it in an emergency situation where you don't have much time to think.

Does the front brake have more stopping power? Yes, but as long as you aren't getting the rear wheel in the air, the rear brake is doing something. While negligible, that something might turn out to be just enough to change the situation entirely.
Sure..like make your entire rear end slide out when it grabs too much. ;) I get your point but the use of the rear brake is going to vary greatly depending on what you ride and how you ride it. I think the better question would be what kind of bike do you ride, and how do you brake.

My technique (minus track time) is pretty much the same as what Sev said, with a little more rear brake used when I'm in city traffic riding around slow.

Hey Shorts..what was that you were saying in another thread about people respecting others decisions once they've made them? :) (you know I'm teasing you but hey!)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:32 pm
by Shorts
Nalian wrote: Hey Shorts..what was that you were saying in another thread about people respecting others decisions once they've made them? :) (you know I'm teasing you but hey!)
Of course I "respect" it, I just said don't say it :twisted: :laughing:


In all seriousness, I know that a large part of "respect" is allowing others to express themselves

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:54 pm
by b!keR
thanks for helping.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:56 am
by slimcolo
I usually use rear when I can remember which foot it's on. Some of my bikes shift on the right side, and others like the BTs and Hondas shift on the wrong side.

Another thing to address is the MSF rule of 2/3 front braking. This is only a general rule good for the majority of bikes. (about 85-90 per cent) I have however seen bikes (almost always older, or custom choppers) that have may-bee 5 per cent of braking power in front. Also seen newer Buells that have excellent front brakes (can you say stoppie) but sorry rear brakes. (my 49 Pan has better rear than a 06 Ulyesses)

Best to use 2/3 rule at first but adapt it to your bike. The main thing is that if you are actually thinking how much brake should be applied to each wheel, instead of doing this unconsciously, you need more practice. (IT takes me about a week to relearn this when switching from another bike, or in Spring) After time this should become instinct.