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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:25 am
by Dennis
No problem in Dallas. I have V&H Cruzers on mine. I can make a Hound dog deaf. When I get it inspected all the guys gather round just to listen as I rev her up.
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:28 am
by crazypj
well I guess you can thank the 'loud pipes "pee" everyone off' brigade for the legislation.
Its only a matter of time before all states comply.
For a number of years Dayton Beach has handed out tickets for loud pipes, sometimes calling it aggressive display of speed (even revving bike at stoplights is enough to get a ticket)
PJ
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:11 am
by Meanie
Derail wrote:How well do the cops know bikes? Couldn't you just claim it was stock? You would think they would they would crack down on cell phones or something dangerous.. but they hassle the ones who make a little noise.
Motorcycle manufacturers and dealers are not allowed to sell a new motorcycle with loud pipes. It must meet the state noise law as well as the emissions law. If they make little noise, then you don't have a problem. Otherwise, loud pipes are a freakin nuisance and should be banned, IMO. It also provides a bad rep for the motorcycle community.
Many cities, and soon states, are cracking down on cellphone use and other preoccupied actions while driving. In Michigan, they are passing bills in major metro cities to ticket those who use cellphones, eat, apply makeup, etc while driving. The only issue I dislike is they make it a second offense, which mean, the driver must be pulled over for another violation. I think they need to make it a first offense and ticket those who are literally distracted by other things while driving.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:05 am
by flynrider
Meanie wrote:
Motorcycle manufacturers and dealers are not allowed to sell a new motorcycle with loud pipes. It must meet the state noise law as well as the emissions law.
A mere technicality. A motorcycle dealer can sell you a bike with stock pipes, then 1 second later, can sell you some loud aftermarket pipes and install them.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:42 am
by Brackstone
flynrider wrote:Meanie wrote:
Motorcycle manufacturers and dealers are not allowed to sell a new motorcycle with loud pipes. It must meet the state noise law as well as the emissions law.
A mere technicality. A motorcycle dealer can sell you a bike with stock pipes, then 1 second later, can sell you some loud aftermarket pipes and install them.
How is that a technicality? I think it's a good rule of thumb.
If your concerned about this "law" don't buy aftermarket pipes.
I don't see what the dealership installing them has anything to do with it.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:40 am
by Meanie
flynrider wrote:Meanie wrote:
Motorcycle manufacturers and dealers are not allowed to sell a new motorcycle with loud pipes. It must meet the state noise law as well as the emissions law.
A mere technicality. A motorcycle dealer can sell you a bike with stock pipes, then 1 second later, can sell you some loud aftermarket pipes and install them.
That's a possibility in some states, but dealers in many states are not allowed to install them either. They can sell, just not install. Any mods which conflict with the state ordinances cannot be performed by a licensed facility. Doing it yourself is the only way to go. Again, it depends on the sate.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:59 pm
by Wrider
Meanie wrote:flynrider wrote:Meanie wrote:
Motorcycle manufacturers and dealers are not allowed to sell a new motorcycle with loud pipes. It must meet the state noise law as well as the emissions law.
A mere technicality. A motorcycle dealer can sell you a bike with stock pipes, then 1 second later, can sell you some loud aftermarket pipes and install them.
That's a possibility in some states, but dealers in many states are not allowed to install them either. They can sell, just not install. Any mods which conflict with the state ordinances cannot be performed by a licensed facility. Doing it yourself is the only way to go. Again, it depends on the sate.
The way most dealers get around that is by telling the customer and having them sign a notice saying that the bike is no longer street legal, it's now for offroad or race use only...
Harley's Screaming Eagle products are all marked with "For off-road or race use only"
So basically any performance modified motorcycle is illegal on the road if it's truly looked at.
If a dealer has the notice signed by the customer though, they're off the hook, no problem.
Wrider