Laurence Fishburn gets high before riding

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badinfluence63 · Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:02 am

lets not be prudes about this. While it shouldn't be condoned or encouraged many of us, including myself have ridden long distance, succesfully and in a slightly altered state of various proportions. And it went well always. Its all about knowing what you can or cannot do and being honest with yourself about it.

Brackstone · Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:22 am

badinfluence63 wrote:lets not be prudes about this. While it shouldn't be condoned or encouraged many of us, including myself have ridden long distance, succesfully and in a slightly altered state of various proportions. And it went well always. Its all about knowing what you can or cannot do and being honest with yourself about it.

imo doing it is an act of condoning it really. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

That's like when a friend comes to me and tells me how funny it was that he was totally drunk when he drove home etc. etc. I don't recall just 1 beer as not impacting your performance, even slightly. You never know when that 1/1000th of a second might not have saved your life or the life of someone elses.

I won't pretend to be holier than thou. I do dangerous things sometimes like lane splitting, going over the double yellows, turning left on a red light after waiting for the signal to change etc.

But driving and/or riding under the influence is where I draw the line.

The problem here is the public is a harsh jury. They can and will always have prejudices against all sorts of groups as human beings love to classify things.

When something like this happens it just reinforces the things that I think the motorcycle community as a whole is trying to detach itself from. Is it possible for us to remove ourselves from all the negative stereotypes? Well probably not. The fact that the person in this incident is famous also gives it more recognition than it probably should as well.

But we certainly shouldn't give up either.

badinfluence63 · Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:43 pm

imo doing it is an act of condoning it really. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

No its not. And you can have your cake and eat it too....I do it all the time. This is still America. While we still have imposed limitations and statutes of at times illogical control we still have free will,good judgement and all those other things the political correct crowd has unfairly and illogically narrowed,tried to take away or control. Thank God its ultimately never gonna happen. Most are sheep happily being led to the slaughter. Not everyone.

You do what works for you and I will do what works for me. I'm in no hurry to be anything but what I want to be and not play to the crowd. Thats just silly. If your values work for you...go for it, good luck and I hope they serve you well. Mine have me. I have never had a DUI and I have ridden like I said in various states of altered proportions. And it was good. No great! Luck is when preparation and opportunity come together. Some people are just better prepared then others

Some people really shouldn't get out of bed or leave the house ever, never mind having a beer?

307T · #14 Unread post by **307T** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:41 pm

I'm sorry but who really gives a rat's a$$ what Laurence Fishburne does? How do his actions, silly or otherwise, make any difference to riders anywhere? There are loads of squids out there without Forbes writing about them and there are plenty of highly skilled riders too. All this does is reinforce stereotypes about motorcyclists, Hollywood icons, and rope smokers. Next we'll be reading about how Brangelina nearly lost it on his motorcycle while talking on a cell phone. Give me a break!

Patrick · #15 Unread post by **Patrick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:15 am

307T wrote:I'm sorry but who really gives a rat's a$$ what Laurence Fishburne does? How do his actions, silly or otherwise, make any difference to riders anywhere? There are loads of squids out there without Forbes writing about them and there are plenty of highly skilled riders too. All this does is reinforce stereotypes about motorcyclists, Hollywood icons, and rope smokers. Next we'll be reading about how Brangelina nearly lost it on his motorcycle while talking on a cell phone. Give me a break!

All I can do is

I like it.

ANDS! · #16 Unread post by **ANDS!** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:21 am

Never mind that the incident occurred nearly ten years ago.

NorthernPete · Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:26 am

badinfluence63 wrote:
imo doing it is an act of condoning it really. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
No its not. And you can have your cake and eat it too....I do it all the time. This is still America. While we still have imposed limitations and statutes of at times illogical control we still have free will,good judgement and all those other things the political correct crowd has unfairly and illogically narrowed,tried to take away or control. Thank God its ultimately never gonna happen. Most are sheep happily being led to the slaughter. Not everyone.

You do what works for you and I will do what works for me. I'm in no hurry to be anything but what I want to be and not play to the crowd. Thats just silly. If your values work for you...go for it, good luck and I hope they serve you well. Mine have me. I have never had a DUI and I have ridden like I said in various states of altered proportions. And it was good. No great! Luck is when preparation and opportunity come together. Some people are just better prepared then others

Some people really shouldn't get out of bed or leave the house ever, never mind having a beer?

Heres hoping your luck stays with you. it only takes the one time, that one split second to turn your life upside down. there are laws against it for a reason.

badinfluence63 · Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:44 am

Thanks.

Luck is when preperation and opportunity come together.

The law is whack. It won't ever control mans choice making process only punish for bad choices. I am not an anarchist hell bent on anarchy. I do resent having my choices taken away from me. And who watches the wathcers? Hell by your own advice you could be competely unimpaired and make that same mistake that will turn your life upside down too. So although I know you mean well, you do your thing and I'll do mine.

Next you'll be telling me guns and a beer don't mix either

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NorthernPete · Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:54 am

I dont call it beer and guns, I call it hunting!

Im not trying to start anything, but all Im saying is its proven that if you are impared by anything, from alcohol to prescrition drugs to emotional distress it slows your reaction time. It doesnt have anything to do with listening to the government or having your rights taken away or telling someone they shouldnt party how they want. If you have had your life personally affected by a drunk driver (which you may have,I dont know you) you may think a little differently is all.

rant off.

badinfluence63 · Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:22 am

Northern Pete,

Or not, because forgiveness can be a powerful force to be reconned with. Everything really comes down to choices, peoples ability to make good ones, not laws. And drunks which I am not, is a whole nother subject of opportunity.

That was funny about a beer and guns being hunting. I know what you meant.