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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:49 pm
by R3sp4wN
I picked up a pair of Brahma Swat boots from WalMart for less than $30. They are really comfy and do the job.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:35 am
by t_bonee
slimcolo wrote:For cheap try Wal Mart (they only carry wide sizes no narrow) also might try Army surplus (ours carries Chippawa Engineers boots for $98, combat and jungle boots for about $24) Get some of these for now and save for some Real ridding boots. Try to avoid steel toes, ballistic nylon toes are avial. and much warmer + OSHA approved for Electrical work) I can't believe you do not have any boots though. (no work boots, no hiking boots, no hunting boots no dress boots?)
What's the matter with steel toed boots?

If you are referring to the urban legend that steel toes can get crushed and do more damage (i.e. sever) to the toes, it is just that, an urban legend.

Truth is, anything that would cause the steel to be damaged so badly as to sever or otherwise injure the toes would do a hellvu lot more damage to the toes if there were no steel toes there to begin with. Resulting in an amputation of the toes any way.

Nothing wrong with using other style safety toes, but no reason to avoid steel toes either.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:20 am
by Kuhnfyoozed
t_bonee wrote:
slimcolo wrote:For cheap try Wal Mart (they only carry wide sizes no narrow) also might try Army surplus (ours carries Chippawa Engineers boots for $98, combat and jungle boots for about $24) Get some of these for now and save for some Real ridding boots. Try to avoid steel toes, ballistic nylon toes are avial. and much warmer + OSHA approved for Electrical work) I can't believe you do not have any boots though. (no work boots, no hiking boots, no hunting boots no dress boots?)
What's the matter with steel toed boots?

If you are referring to the urban legend that steel toes can get crushed and do more damage (i.e. sever) to the toes, it is just that, an urban legend.

Truth is, anything that would cause the steel to be damaged so badly as to sever or otherwise injure the toes would do a hellvu lot more damage to the toes if there were no steel toes there to begin with. Resulting in an amputation of the toes any way.

Nothing wrong with using other style safety toes, but no reason to avoid steel toes either.
It is possible for steel toe boots to sever your toes, but its highly unlikely. When I got my safety toe boots from a safety footwear store, the store owner told me that he got into the business because his buddy from his old construction firm lost a toe because of the steel. Of course, if something is falling on your foot with that much force, the steel/safety toe isn't going to do you any good. Your feet are going to be crushed at that point, so the choice is between a plastic material that will shatter or a steel toe that could possibly sever your toes.

I do agree that its not a good reason to avoid steel, but there are other reasons to use a kind of plastic safety toe in place of steel. One reason why I went with the plastic is because of the reduced weight.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:59 pm
by storysunfolding
There's the possibility of a small diameter rod shaped object crushing the steel toe resulting in multiple toe loss when you would have otherwise only lost one... but that's sort of splitting hairs.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:51 am
by Pittance
Actually, the reason I have heard of not using steel-toed for motorcycles is because it reduces the amount of feeling you have to use the shifter.

Mythbusters (depending on how much stock you put in their methods) proved that steel-toes are almost-always safer than without. The forces that would need to be used to bend the steel toe to cut your toes are so extreme that without the steel-toe, your feet would be completely pulverized and you would likely have to have them amputated (if they were still attached) anyways. Now, if you drop a 1-2 ton weight that has the suface area of only 1-3 sq. inches on your steel toe, then you might have this problem (like was said, a cylindrical). But the odds of such a powerful weight over such a small area hitting only ONE of your toes instead of 2-3 is very very small. It is very very small just to have that situation at all. Anyways, steel-toes are almost always safer than not. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:53 am
by storysunfolding
exactly!

I've never had a problem feeling the shifter or I just got used to it. Either way my $40 stanley work boots lasted two seasons. W00t

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:42 am
by Pittance
2 Questions:

Anyone that lives in or near Raleigh NC have any idea where to buy Doc Martens? Journeys and Buckle have absolutely nothing.

What type of socks do you all wear when riding? All cotton? All wool? Wool/synthetic mix (ala, serious hiking/skiing socks)? Thanks.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:54 am
by jonnythan
Pittance wrote:2 Questions:

Anyone that lives in or near Raleigh NC have any idea where to buy Doc Martens? Journeys and Buckle have absolutely nothing.

What type of socks do you all wear when riding? All cotton? All wool? Wool/synthetic mix (ala, serious hiking/skiing socks)? Thanks.
I am a sock fiend. I have all manner of socks, and I have very high standards for socks.

That said, it depends on the day. If I'm just going out for a ride I usually have cotton socks on. If I expect to get wet, I will always wear wool or synthetic (polyester, acrylic) socks. If it's cold I'll wear a bulkier wool sock.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:59 am
by Pittance
Since there is a sock aficionado here, ill ask a follow-up sock question: What are the comfiest socks you own? Or sock type rather. I have some old military boots that tend to rub in one part of one, and all down in (the part where your ankle and foot meet, the hinge almost, where you tie tennis shoes) there after about 5-6hr. Looking for something to make them bearable. Thanks.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:06 am
by jonnythan
Pittance wrote:Since there is a sock aficionado here, ill ask a follow-up sock question: What are the comfiest socks you own? Or sock type rather. I have some old military boots that tend to rub in one part of one, and all down in (the part where your ankle and foot meet, the hinge almost, where you tie tennis shoes) there after about 5-6hr. Looking for something to make them bearable. Thanks.
I used to sell hiking boots, boot modifications, and socks to people who hike the AT ;)

The most comfortable socks I personally own are my Thorlo Light Hiking socks. They're awesome.

But, what I would recommend to you is to wear a liner sock under the sock of your choice. A decent liner sock, like a Fox River liner, will be very thin and somewhat slippery. This will mitigate the hot spot because the outer sock/shoe will be rubbing on the liner sock, not your skin.