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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:52 am
by Shorts
bandit600 wrote:
What I don't understand is why there are so many athletes that put on protective gear every day to play sports yet once they get on a motorcycle the thought doesn't occur to them or they're too cool for it, like
Matter of perspective. Sports is their "job". So, "safety" is only job related, something they
have to do. But a bike is recreational. Like golfing, jet skiing, biking etc - fun only, no safety required.
I'd be willing to say that to some regard 'the fun stuff' isn't seen as something to be protected from. Bikes, as I mentioned are seen as fun things only, not as a threat. And fun things are normally rather liberating experiences, where you can relax and let your guard down and enjoy. I would suspect, 'safety precautions' are not seen as fun or enjoyable to many folks.
Riders know the ride is better when your eyelids aren't flapping around and your eyeballs aren't bobbling in your skull. Makes seeing the sights much less blurry. Plus you don't get fluids running out your nose and eyes from the chill of the wind

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:57 pm
by jonnythan
Those athletes tend to wear protective gear because they have to. It's the rules.
There are, what, maybe less than 8 guys in the entire NHL that wear full face masks, but everyone in college hockey does. Those college guys do it because they have to.
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:33 pm
by Fast Eddy B
Obviously this could have happened on a Ninja 250, but what do you think of his bike choice?
Do real men ride litre bikes? In my hometown, that's the kind of [thinking] that goes on.
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:16 pm
by Shorts
Yesterday, RCMP investigators said Bourdon's inexperience on the sleek, speedy machine – a Suzuki GSX-R1000 – may have played a role in the crash.
"The impact took place in the opposite lane," Insp. Roch Fortin told a news conference at Shippagan's town hall.
Fortin also noted it was windy on Thursday and a sudden gust may have pushed Bourdon into the truck's path.
Let's ignore the fact he was on a bike that was out of his league for the experience he had. But he was pretty stupid to be passing on a curve in the first place.
Just like the moron in the video that does 130kph and kills an oncoming rider head on. Stupid move for having a license for 2wks. I doubt the wind has much blame in this.
Some of us get away with 'stupid' several times before it bites us in the "O Ring". He got one shot. Everyone should make decisions as if they only have one shot.
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:35 am
by Brackstone
Fast Eddy B wrote:Obviously this could have happened on a Ninja 250, but what do you think of his bike choice?
Do real men ride litre bikes? In my hometown, that's the kind of [thinking] that goes on.
I was at the dealer yesterday and I saw a group of friends telling their new riding buddy what to get.
One of their recommendations was this exact quote "Daaaaayyyyyyyyyummmmmm Son that's you right THERE the 750CC that "poo poo" is HOT."
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:58 am
by RhadamYgg
Brackstone wrote:Fast Eddy B wrote:Obviously this could have happened on a Ninja 250, but what do you think of his bike choice?
Do real men ride litre bikes? In my hometown, that's the kind of [thinking] that goes on.
I was at the dealer yesterday and I saw a group of friends telling their new riding buddy what to get.
One of their recommendations was this exact quote "Daaaaayyyyyyyyyummmmmm Son that's you right THERE the 750CC that "poo poo" is HOT."
You know, I mentioned this in another thread.... But I really think sales people need to be trained and certified in safety by law.
I realize that a lot of people out grow the bikes quickly, but I'd rather that and they live to have a long motorcycling career than die because they have a twitchy throttle and clutch control because they haven't learned how to control it yet.
I've pulled two wheelies on this bike (little ones) starting off from hills. I can only imagine what would have happened if I had a 'real' bike and gave it that much throttle to start on a hill.
But, maybe I'm defective and just a poor rider. Either is possible. It might be a self-confidence thing too. People can come at me from that direction as well.
But the way I see it, right now, the Ninja 250 that I currently own - can out-accelerate my regular car. It could probably out-corner my regular car as well, but I'm a wuss right now on corners and don't lean all that deep.
RhadamYgg
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:22 am
by HYPERR
RhadamYgg wrote:
I've pulled two wheelies on this bike (little ones) starting off from hills.
Sort of addicting isn't it? It always starts with a mini-wheelie.....and before you know it, you will turn into a HOOLIGAN!!

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:15 am
by RhadamYgg
HYPERR wrote:RhadamYgg wrote:
I've pulled two wheelies on this bike (little ones) starting off from hills.
Sort of addicting isn't it? It always starts with a mini-wheelie.....and before you know it, you will turn into a HOOLIGAN!!

Stop it, you are being a bad influence...
Although instead of scaring the crap out of me, the wheelie was more of a - oh, um, you might want to ease off the throttle about now.
My wife will kill me (if I don't kill myself on the bike first) if I turn in to a HOOLIGAN!
RhadamYgg
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:42 am
by HYPERR
RhadamYgg wrote:HYPERR wrote:RhadamYgg wrote:
I've pulled two wheelies on this bike (little ones) starting off from hills.
Sort of addicting isn't it? It always starts with a mini-wheelie.....and before you know it, you will turn into a HOOLIGAN!!

Stop it, you are being a bad influence...
Although instead of scaring the "crumb" out of me, the wheelie was more of a - oh, um, you might want to ease off the throttle about now.
My wife will kill me (if I don't kill myself on the bike first) if I turn in to a HOOLIGAN!
RhadamYgg
You have an excellent attitude.

You understand your current skill/experience limits and respect your machine and it's capabilities.

A 250 Ninja is more than powerful enough to get one into trouble.
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:20 pm
by ceemes
Fast Eddy B wrote:Obviously this could have happened on a Ninja 250, but what do you think of his bike choice?
Do real men ride litre bikes? In my hometown, that's the kind of [thinking] that goes on.
A Suzuki GSX-R1000 as a first bike.......stupid, stupid, stupid.
This thread should be made into a sticky and all the newbie young bloods clamoring that they can handle a litre bike or a 600RR as their first ride should be forced to read it.
As much as I am for the freedom of the ride, I still think a graduate licensing programme along with mandatory multi-level training and testing system be put in place for ALL new and re-entry riders. And if a newbie wants to buy a litre bike or 600RR, then the dealer or seller should be required to tone its output via restrictor plates or whatever.
Far too many new riders with the ink still wet on their permits are jumping on these great machines and ending up as hood ornaments of trucks and cars or wrapping themselves around lamp posts and trees.