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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:58 am
by MZ33
Sorry, Joey, I seem to have hijacked your thread.

Has any of this been helpful to
you?
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:36 am
by HYPERR
MZ33 wrote:Sorry, Joey, I seem to have hijacked your thread.

Has any of this been helpful to
you?
Well like Lion Lady said, seat shaving and sliding your butt to the left and only putting one foot down at stoplights are two great methods to compensate for short inseam.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:53 am
by Lion_Lady
If you tend to drop the bike to the right... think about it, the brake lever is in your right hand. If you pull the right grip toward you (unconsciously) while squeezing the brake lever, that will turn the bars to the right as you apply the brakes.
The result is then likely to be a tipover to the right.
(And, HYPER, tables and chairs are usually 4 legged for "insurance." Consider: If there's a problem with one leg on a four legged table/chair... it wobbles. If there's a problem on a THREE legged table or chair, it will fall over.

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:52 am
by HYPERR
Lion_Lady wrote:
(And, HYPER, tables and chairs are usually 4 legged for "insurance." Consider: If there's a problem with one leg on a four legged table/chair... it wobbles. If there's a problem on a THREE legged table or chair, it will fall over.

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So in essence aren't you agreeing with me that 4 legs are more stable than 3?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:17 am
by Lion_Lady
I wouldn't call "wobbling" stable. 3 legs/points of contact NEVER wobble.
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Seat question
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:35 am
by srtgurly650
I can touch the ground but the seat that is on my v star 650 is too deep and I have to sit all the way up to push the brake and clutch. Any suggestions for a solo seat that I can do this and be comfortble?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:06 pm
by RavenDee
Lion_Lady wrote:I wouldn't call "wobbling" stable. 3 legs/points of contact NEVER wobble.
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So I guess that is why all those 4-legged critters out there are wobbling all over the place? Sorry, couldn't resist. If our legs were stiff and straight like table legs, I'd agree with your analogy. But they're not.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:33 pm
by PacificShot327
I will further contribute to the hijacking of this thread.
Three points of contact CAN be more stable than four points of contact. For them to be equally stable, all points of contact must be on the same plane.
However, in an object with four points of intended contact, if one of the points moves up or down along the z-axis, all four points can no longer make contact, and it becomes an object with three points of contact. The object ONLY wobbles due to weight transfer (for example, a chair that someone leans back and forth on - if they didn't lean toward the flawed leg, the chair is still functional because of the three points of contact. If one of the legs on a three legged chair moved up or down on the z-axis, it would still stand (although, if it moved up or down high enough, you might slide right off.

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It is not flawed to consider a motorcycle's tires as two points of contact. They may move together and be part of the same unit, but they are still 2 points in one segment, and all triangles consist of three segments. I see how Hyperr would say that it's considered one point, but if thought of as a single unit, it would still be a line segment, which still contains at least 2 "points". So really, you're both right, but there was some "off" terminology being used.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:53 pm
by MZ33
Back to srtgurly650 with her seat problem: try asking on a V Star forum, like this one:
http://www.650ccnd.com/ They very likely have experience with all kinds of custom options.
Re: Seat question
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:36 pm
by follow
srtgurly650 wrote:I can touch the ground but the seat that is on my v star 650 is too deep and I have to sit all the way up to push the brake and clutch. Any suggestions for a solo seat that I can do this and be comfortble?
Yeah a back rest.
I am 62" and a smidge...I use a backrest that pushes me forward which helps me reach. This is on a HD.
My other bike I had to have the seat shaved down to at least tippy toe.
So I feel your pain. I do the left foot on the ground stop.