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cynwagon, i agree with you. i drive a chevy silverado extended cab and have been known to talk on the phone while driving. i have even checked my email while driving. BUT... context is key. i have about a 30 minute commute. most of it is done on a 4 lane divided highway where i am usually the only car on the road. there's not a whole lot of risk for me talking on the phone. this to me is the problem when blanket rules and laws are made. we don't all live in the same place.

Gummiente:

Does the pick have to be of the SUV and me? I honestly think I look better on the bike. (now I just have to remember how to post them...) Give me a minute or two.

Let's see if this works. This is today on the little ferry by Drumheller, Alberta

CYNWAGON wrote: Let's see if this works. This is today on the little ferry by Drumheller, Alberta

#1. Cyn, you're a very attractive woman.
#2. I read all the posts here, even though I don't comment, and you are not someone I would label a "Soccer Mom". For me Soccer Mom is a specific kind of woman, you are clearly not that.
#3. I try never to paint everyone with the same brush. However statistically for me I always avoid getting close to Mini-Vans, SUVs, and Trucks with no visible wear/tear in that order.
#4. One of my favorite books (Snow Crash) calls minivans "Bimbo Boxes". I find this more poignant. So I usually call them that because it's the Van I hate, the people inside it really don't matter, they usually drive the same.

You make me blush Brackstone!

Honestly I've never felt like a soccer mom but have been labeled as such a few times.

And true about the minivans, the 2 types of vehicles that give me pause are minivans and anything with a farm sticker on the plate.[/quote]

cynwagon, i agree with you. i drive a chevy silverado extended cab and have been known to talk on the phone while driving. i have even checked my email while driving. BUT... context is key. i have about a 30 minute commute. most of it is done on a 4 lane divided highway where i am usually the only car on the road. there's not a whole lot of risk for me talking on the phone. this to me is the problem when blanket rules and laws are made. we don't all live in the same place.

Agree. If it's not safe to do so I don't, either I don't answer or I pass the phone off to a kid to answer. A lot of the time I don't come across another vehicle for miles.

Brackstone wrote:For me Soccer Mom is a specific kind of woman, you are clearly not that.

Yes she is - Soccer Moms are HOT and she definitely falls into that category. For the record, it's the cell phone yapping, makeup applying, latte swilling ditzes in minivans that cause the problems, not hot Soccer Moms.

Anyway.

Hey, Cyn, I see you have butterflies on your helmet... my wife has an airbrush piece on her helmet that you might like...

Gummiente wrote:

Brackstone wrote:For me Soccer Mom is a specific kind of woman, you are clearly not that.

Yes she is - Soccer Moms are HOT and she definitely falls into that category. For the record, it's the cell phone yapping, makeup applying, latte swilling ditzes in minivans that cause the problems, not hot Soccer Moms.

Anyway.

Hey, Cyn, I see you have butterflies on your helmet... my wife has an airbrush piece on her helmet that you might like...

Urban Dictionary disagrees

Soccermom:

An American mother living in the suburbs who spends most of her time driving her school-aged children from one athletic activity to another, often over scheduling them. Typically White, upper middle class, probably college-educated, most drive SUVs and talk on the cellphone while driving making them prone to cause traffic accidents.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... =soccermom

Now Gummiente's making me blush!

Your wife's helmet is awesome! I bought mine because the yellow in it matches my bike (I know just a little girly).

Soccermom:

An American mother living in the suburbs who spends most of her time driving her school-aged children from one athletic activity to another, often over scheduling them. Typically White, upper middle class, probably college-educated, most drive SUVs and talk on the cellphone while driving making them prone to cause traffic accidents.

OK, so I'm Canadian not American.
I live in an acreage subdivision which probably doesn't count as suburbs.
I don't think I've ever over scheduled my kids, but they keep busy.
I try to limit the cellphone use...


So are bikers better cage drivers?
Do we not put our "stupid hat" quite so quickly when settle in for a cage drive?
Do we have the same alertness as we do on the bike or do we get lulled into the sense of security that the four walls offer?

CYNWAGON wrote:Now Gummiente's making me blush!

Your wife's helmet is awesome! I bought mine because the yellow in it matches my bike (I know just a little girly).

Soccermom:

An American mother living in the suburbs who spends most of her time driving her school-aged children from one athletic activity to another, often over scheduling them. Typically White, upper middle class, probably college-educated, most drive SUVs and talk on the cellphone while driving making them prone to cause traffic accidents.

OK, so I'm Canadian not American.
I live in an acreage subdivision which probably doesn't count as suburbs.
I don't think I've ever over scheduled my kids, but they keep busy.
I try to limit the cellphone use...


So are bikers better cage drivers?
Do we not put our "stupid hat" quite so quickly when settle in for a cage drive?
Do we have the same alertness as we do on the bike or do we get lulled into the sense of security that the four walls offer?

Me personally I am a very safe car driver, I've only been in 3 accidents and none of them were my fault.

I don't think motorcyclists themselves make better car drivers, I think CONFIDENCE (not cockiness) is the key to being a better driver.

I am more afraid of a scared driver, than I am a cocky driver, and I'd rather just be confident myself.

Scared drivers are the people that pull up to an intersection START TO GO, then slam on the brakes because they see you coming, then think "Wait maybe I can make it?!?" and then SLAM ON THE GAS at the last possible second.

Cocky drivers usually have nice cars and are just racing all over the road and don't want to hit someone anyway.

Confident drivers are people who make carefully thought out decisions, study the road and the drivers around them, etc.

You can't teach Nerves and Steely Resolve, the MSF should but sometimes it doesn't. There are people out there who are really afraid and don't belong on a motorcycle because they are just going to hurt themselves or someone else.

I think that most motorcyclists are good drivers because they have confidence and the wherewithal to get themselves out of sticky situations without getting hurt.