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#11 Post by koji52 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:09 am

I think the ridge could probably be seen at night as parts of that road are relatively well lit. However, exactly how high the ridges are is probably an anomoly at night. Anyone who's ridden 295 around that area should know though that it's been under construction and to be extra careful. I do feel for the friends and family of the fallen riders though and my heart goes out to them.

I agree with jstark that we shouldn't be limited to our usage of that road.

Rhadam, your approach to running over a ridge like that is exactly what I'd do...take it as perpendicular as possible and blip the throttle to lift the front end a bit. I'd probably also put all my weight on the pegs as well. I'd be interested in knowing what kind of gear they were wearing. It probably wouldn't really have mattered in this case though as the guy was run over by two cars.
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#12 Post by bandit600 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:44 am

Wow what a sad loss. My thoughts and prayers are with the families.

I grew up in Marlboro and my parents still live there so I drive that 295 route at least once every couple months. Down here in DC where 66 passes inside the beltway they are doing a lot of that similar construction which always makes me extra cautious but this a reminder to be even more vigilant and slow down around those areas.

I thought I recall someone on this forum getting in a car accident because one of those ridges in the DC area was actually at an angle to the flow of traffic instead of perpendicular or parallel and it basically pushed their car into the guard rail. Seems to be a recurring problem...
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#13 Post by jstark47 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:29 am

...... and this morning, the macadam ridge is gone. At least in the northbound lanes, which is where these guys died. The finish coat is down across all three lanes, from route 130 all the way up to I-195.

Just guessing, but I can imagine the word went out to the paving contractor to stop wink-wink around and get the job finished.
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#14 Post by koji52 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:38 am

jstark47 wrote:...... and this morning, the macadam ridge is gone. At least in the northbound lanes, which is where these guys died. The finish coat is down across all three lanes, from route 130 all the way up to I-195.

Just guessing, but I can imagine the word went out to the paving contractor to stop wink-wink around and get the job finished.
It's absolutely ridiculous how long they left that stretch of road unfinished and that it's taken two deaths for them to finally make an effort to finish it.
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#15 Post by mydlyfkryzis » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:34 am

Ross was ejected from the seat and suffered serious head and chest injuries.
I wonder if he was wearing a full face helmet, or one of thise beanies that many Harley riders prefer.

I'm betting it was a Beanie.

I bet he would of avoided serious injury/death if he was wearing good gear.
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#16 Post by Amdonim » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:27 am

mydlyfkryzis wrote:
Ross was ejected from the seat and suffered serious head and chest injuries.
I wonder if he was wearing a full face helmet, or one of thise beanies that many Harley riders prefer.

I'm betting it was a Beanie.

I bet he would of avoided serious injury/death if he was wearing good gear.
Consider the wasps nest officially stirred.

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#17 Post by jstark47 » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:46 am

Not quite sure how a full-face would have prevented his chest injuries?
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#18 Post by RhadamYgg » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:31 pm

mydlyfkryzis wrote:
Ross was ejected from the seat and suffered serious head and chest injuries.
I wonder if he was wearing a full face helmet, or one of thise beanies that many Harley riders prefer.

I'm betting it was a Beanie.

I bet he would of avoided serious injury/death if he was wearing good gear.
It would be hard to say, but that is among many questions unanswered about this incident and many others like it.

1) What type of helmet was he wearing?
2) What other gear was he wearing?
3) What training level did he attain?
4) When was the last time he trained (in a class)?

It would be nice if a la hurt report - they collected as a part of their accident/fatality report far more information - that statistically we could query and get information.

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#19 Post by koji52 » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:46 am

Well for the first rider who went down, no amount of gear could have saved his life. He was run over twice at speed. I don't think a full-face or body armor would have saved him.
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#20 Post by RhadamYgg » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:23 pm

koji52 wrote:Well for the first rider who went down, no amount of gear could have saved his life. He was run over twice at speed. I don't think a full-face or body armor would have saved him.
I think the GI Joe armor would have trouble getting run over twice.
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