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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:09 am
by koji52
I think the ridge could probably be seen at night as parts of that road are relatively well lit. However, exactly how high the ridges are is probably an anomoly at night. Anyone who's ridden 295 around that area should know though that it's been under construction and to be extra careful. I do feel for the friends and family of the fallen riders though and my heart goes out to them.
I agree with jstark that we shouldn't be limited to our usage of that road.
Rhadam, your approach to running over a ridge like that is exactly what I'd do...take it as perpendicular as possible and blip the throttle to lift the front end a bit. I'd probably also put all my weight on the pegs as well. I'd be interested in knowing what kind of gear they were wearing. It probably wouldn't really have mattered in this case though as the guy was run over by two cars.
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:44 am
by bandit600
Wow what a sad loss. My thoughts and prayers are with the families.
I grew up in Marlboro and my parents still live there so I drive that 295 route at least once every couple months. Down here in DC where 66 passes inside the beltway they are doing a lot of that similar construction which always makes me extra cautious but this a reminder to be even more vigilant and slow down around those areas.
I thought I recall someone on this forum getting in a car accident because one of those ridges in the DC area was actually at an angle to the flow of traffic instead of perpendicular or parallel and it basically pushed their car into the guard rail. Seems to be a recurring problem...
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:29 am
by jstark47
...... and this morning, the macadam ridge is gone. At least in the northbound lanes, which is where these guys died. The finish coat is down across all three lanes, from route 130 all the way up to I-195.
Just guessing, but I can imagine the word went out to the paving contractor to stop wink-wink around and get the job finished.
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:38 am
by koji52
jstark47 wrote:...... and this morning, the macadam ridge is gone. At least in the northbound lanes, which is where these guys died. The finish coat is down across all three lanes, from route 130 all the way up to I-195.
Just guessing, but I can imagine the word went out to the paving contractor to stop wink-wink around and get the job finished.
It's absolutely ridiculous how long they left that stretch of road unfinished and that it's taken two deaths for them to finally make an effort to finish it.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:34 am
by mydlyfkryzis
Ross was ejected from the seat and suffered serious head and chest injuries.
I wonder if he was wearing a full face helmet, or one of thise beanies that many Harley riders prefer.
I'm betting it was a Beanie.
I bet he would of avoided serious injury/death if he was wearing good gear.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:27 am
by Amdonim
mydlyfkryzis wrote:Ross was ejected from the seat and suffered serious head and chest injuries.
I wonder if he was wearing a full face helmet, or one of thise beanies that many Harley riders prefer.
I'm betting it was a Beanie.
I bet he would of avoided serious injury/death if he was wearing good gear.
Consider the wasps nest officially stirred.

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:46 am
by jstark47
Not quite sure how a full-face would have prevented his chest injuries?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:31 pm
by RhadamYgg
mydlyfkryzis wrote:Ross was ejected from the seat and suffered serious head and chest injuries.
I wonder if he was wearing a full face helmet, or one of thise beanies that many Harley riders prefer.
I'm betting it was a Beanie.
I bet he would of avoided serious injury/death if he was wearing good gear.
It would be hard to say, but that is among many questions unanswered about this incident and many others like it.
1) What type of helmet was he wearing?
2) What other gear was he wearing?
3) What training level did he attain?
4) When was the last time he trained (in a class)?
It would be nice if a la hurt report - they collected as a part of their accident/fatality report far more information - that statistically we could query and get information.
RhadamYgg
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:46 am
by koji52
Well for the first rider who went down, no amount of gear could have saved his life. He was run over twice at speed. I don't think a full-face or body armor would have saved him.
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:23 pm
by RhadamYgg
koji52 wrote:Well for the first rider who went down, no amount of gear could have saved his life. He was run over twice at speed. I don't think a full-face or body armor would have saved him.
I think the GI Joe armor would have trouble getting run over twice.