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Well yeah they're forcing you to buy healthcare insurance. If you don't they're going to charge you 750/year. And no it's not affordable at all. Average healthcare premiums here reach into the thousands per year. The way they set it up really irks me too. Congress never asked for the people to vote on it, but they're exempt from, the President that's supporting it is exempt from it, and just like it happened with car insurance rates once it was required, the premiums are just going to go up, because now the companies can't legally deny anyone.

A lot of negative and untrue propaganda about the Canadian Health Care System has been bandied about by various right wing bloggers and anti-universal health care advocates within the US.

There are waiting list in Canada, usually for non-life threatening cosmetic procedures or for things like hip replacements. However, for things like hip replacements, we use the triage procedure, those that need immediate help go to the front of the line, which is fair in my book. Those that can wait a bit do. Sure it sucks for them, but like any service or commodity and health care is both, demand has a habit of out stripping supply. There are just so many surgeons, OR's and hospitals in the nation.

Secondly, the Canadian system is not free no matter what the likes of Rush Limpballs would have you believe, we all pay for it through our monthly insurance premiums and income taxes.

Thirdly, the Canadian system is funded by both the Federal and Provincial Governments and each Province administers their own programmes.

Last year I lost a friend to Hep C. She was wanting for a liver transplant but passed away before a suitable organ could be found. One of my US "friends" who is very anti-universal health care tried to use her passing as an example of how broken the Canadian system was. I damn near hit the looker. Up to the last, she was ready, the hospital was ready, her surgeon was ready, sadly a suitable donor organ was not. A problem that plagues most industrial nations which is why I am asking you all to sign your organ donor cards if you have them.

I find it utterly amazing that the US is the only nation in the industrialized world that does not even have the most basic of a universal health care system in place for all its citizens. And that while the US actually does spend more on what passes for health care there then any other nation in the world, its citizens actually get less services. So tell me, who's system is truly broken?

ceemes wrote:
I find it utterly amazing that the US is the only nation in the industrialized world that does not even have the most basic of a universal health care system in place for all its citizens. And that while the US actually does spend more on what passes for health care there then any other nation in the world, its citizens actually get less services. So tell me, who's system is truly broken?

I admit, I have to agree with Ceemes here. This is a very valid point.

This healthcare reform in the US certainly is not a case of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it." It certainly was not a disaster but certainly far from perfect.

I'm just going to see how it all plays out before reaching a conclusion on whether I'm supposed to be going or

I personally don't see too much changes(if any) for a middle class guy like me.