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It makes me sick that things like this happen. Unfortunately there are people in this world who think that the only way to get their point across is with violence. I'm looking forward to the day that we can get past that.

A good friend of mine works just a few hundred yards from Tavistock Square, where two of the bombs went off. He decided to go in late yesterday and so arrived to find the whole place cordoned off. His offices were being used as a place to look after those with less serious injuries. This brings yesterdays events a bit close to home!

The police and the politicians still don't seem to be ready to pronounce on who was responsible, though it does look like a Middle Eastern network job. The latest news I heard was that there are at least 50 dead and rising and there are still a number of bodies down in the tube tunnels that the rescue services are having difficulty getting out. The police seem to be hopeful that they can get a lead on the perpetrators, but that may just be media hype. We'll just have to wait and see. None of the bombs were very big: 10lb max. It must be so easy to plant something like that in a crowded part of the city. These guys need to be caught soon so they can't plant any more.

I get very weary of the "Kick Butt" approach to terrorism, though. Violence just breeds more violence. It was because they wanted to kick butt in Afghanistan after the Russians invaded that the western powers armed, trained and brought together what eventually became the Al Qaida network in the first place. Kicking butt with, not ten, but tens of thousands of pounds of explosives and killing thousands of innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq hasn't helped improve things either. Sev's right, violence doesn't solve any problems, it just creates mayhem - whoever perpetrates it. I just hope that the powers that be focus on catching those responsible for the explosions and don't use this as one more excuse for agressive action in the Middle East.

These explosions are now practically on my doorstep. So I'd kind of like to say, don't give the politicians encouragment to stir up any more mayhem, hm?

Hi Mashby, glad to hear your sis is ok! Must have been pretty frightening for her. I think the toll has gone up to 57 dead.

barmy_carmy wrote:"This isnt the way to put your message across, these actions will turn the world against you! And does not your God the same as our God tell you, that you should not commit murder? and what you are doing is unjust."

From what I've gathered about the koran / quaran, it is a very neutrally balanced book, which if this is true is actually quite admirable for a book trying to guide peoples lives. Unfortunately, it also leaves things very open to personal interprettation, and if there's anything about human nature you'll have learned on this website, it's that people will see what they want to see in any written text. (ie. I've heard that R6's have great control and handlng = good starter bike... ) And any time we react in any way, we give legitimacy to their operations. The best (but inhumane) action would be to do nothing, till they lose support in their own ranks, and disband. Unfortunately we can't accept the amount of casualtys that would be inflicted before that time.

I guess we're buggered... so options time

1: we nuke em
2: we move to the moon
3: we do both

answers on a postcard, first correct answer out of the hat, gets to, anounce our cunning plan to the world