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HYPERR wrote:
You think the '01 is better for two-up than the '96? I always thought the '98-'01 was sportier than the prev. gen 750. I think Honda did too as they brought back the Interceptor name.

The '01 is physically bigger than the '96 and the sub-frame is more robust. I've had issues with my hard saddlebag mounts breaking tabs on my sub-frame on my '96 where as the '01 has a much sturdier solid rod under the mid section of the seat for just that reason.

It's funny how perceptions are formed. When I look at and sit on the 5th gen Viffer I see a bike that is much less sporty than the older 4th gen. Maybe they brought back the Intercepter name to make people think otherwise????

My 5th generation aspirations had a set back yesterday when I had a look at a couple of "excellent condition" examples on kijiji. The first guys bike was overpriced but it was the right colour (silver) and came with the Givi bag set up. What looks really great on the internet in pictures turns out to be covered with scratches. He had just "adjusted the valves" himself, however the oil had not been changed in at least two seasons..... I knew I was in trouble at second Viff when I pulled up to the house and it obviously hadn't seen maintenance since it was new. The bike was no different. There is supposedly a new VFR800 due out at the upcoming bike show in Milan. You don't suppose that Honda would ever eat crow, bring back the gear driven cams and lose the V-Tec do you?????

High_Side wrote: It's funny how perceptions are formed. When I look at and sit on the 5th gen Viffer I see a bike that is much less sporty than the older 4th gen. Maybe they brought back the Intercepter name to make people think otherwise????

I know exactly where you are coming from here. If you just look at it the NR750 derived design 4th gen looks sportier. If you sit on it, yes the clip-ons are slightly lower and the rearsets just a tad higher on the 4th gen making it feel sportier.

Ride the bike. The 5th gen handles better, stops better, and goes faster. Once you ride it, you will see that the 5th gen is definitely sportier. In fact the 5th gen does everything better than the 4th gen except for the looks. The 4th gen, especially in the red is one of the most stunning looking bikes ever made. And if you think your '96 sounds good, wait till you hear a piped '98! (I'm not sure about the '01 as it has the cat right?)

High_Side wrote:There is supposedly a new VFR800 due out at the upcoming bike show in Milan. You don't suppose that Honda would ever eat crow, bring back the gear driven cams and lose the V-Tec do you?????

I saw the new VFR1300 at the Honda dealer and let me tell you, you thought it looked ugly in the photo? Well it looks even more MFUGLier in real life! I mean seriously big time MFUGLY! If ugly was a crime, it would do multiple life sentences with no possible chance for parole.

HYPERR wrote:

High_Side wrote: It's funny how perceptions are formed. When I look at and sit on the 5th gen Viffer I see a bike that is much less sporty than the older 4th gen. Maybe they brought back the Intercepter name to make people think otherwise????

I know exactly where you are coming from here. If you just look at it the NR750 derived design 4th gen looks sportier. If you sit on it, yes the clip-ons are slightly lower and the rearsets just a tad higher on the 4th gen making it feel sportier.

Ride the bike. The 5th gen handles better, stops better, and goes faster. Once you ride it, you will see that the 5th gen is definitely sportier. In fact the 5th gen does everything better than the 4th gen except for the looks. The 4th gen, especially in the red is one of the most stunning looking bikes ever made. And if you think your '96 sounds good, wait till you hear a piped '98! (I'm not sure about the '01 as it has the cat right?)

Well, I rode one when the first were released the year after I bought the VTR and compared with that it REALLY felt like an old mans bike....so there you go! As for speed I had the opportunity to get out with the local VFR club right after I picked up the '96 and we ended up in the country (closed course - professional riders only ) where we had 4th, 5th and 6th generation Viffers to the throttle stops in a few different places(not your usual VFR geezer crowd). I can honestly say that there was nothing between 'em. And if anything, the silver ones were all faster
And finally one of my buds has a piped (Staintune) '01. No matter how much you loved yer gen 5 I can't say that they sound a hell of a lot different....

High_Side wrote: And finally one of my buds has a piped (Staintune) '01. No matter how much you loved yer gen 5 I can't say that they sound a hell of a lot different....

Staintune is an old man's slipon. The '01 has the cat while the '98 did not, huge difference there.

HYPERR wrote:

High_Side wrote: And finally one of my buds has a piped (Staintune) '01. No matter how much you loved yer gen 5 I can't say that they sound a hell of a lot different....

Staintune is an old man's slipon. The '01 has the cat while the '98 did not, huge difference there.[/quote



I think you two are just gonna have to shut up and settle this like men. A road race through a twisty mountain road should clear all this up nicely.

I wish they'd used the 1050 Triumph Triple instead of the 675.

And WTF.......... no 1200 Guzzi????????

For a thumper and a narrow V-Twin, I don't think you can get much better than these two.

Thumper

Narrow V-Twin

I think nothing says "motorcycle" more than a sound of a big thumper.

Would've been interesting to hear a flat 4 (Honda GL1000), an inline 6 (Honda CBX), and a flat 6 (Valkyrie? Goldwing?), Moto Guzzi's V8 from the 1950s, and heck, maybe even a Wankel-engined Norton Commando.

Grey Thumper wrote:Would've been interesting to hear a flat 4 (Honda GL1000), an inline 6 (Honda CBX), and a flat 6 (Valkyrie? Goldwing?), Moto Guzzi's V8 from the 1950s, and heck, maybe even a Wankel-engined Norton Commando.

Moto Guzzi V8

Norton Rotary

Honda 250cc! inline 6