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mothman wrote:it's not about the money, it's about the gross misuse of resources
it's not about the money, it's about the gross misuse of resources

Got That?

I got it just fine. You're preaching to the choir in some respects, hell, I've walked to work for 9 years. But if you're expecting Americans to curb usage based on their conscience for misusing resources you might as well wait for the titanic to make port. It ain't gonna happen. The market is slow but it will work. It might be too late but it will work. it's all math - there are fewer people willing to put $150 in the gas tank than there are people willing to put $100 in the tank. Same with $200 and so on. 20 mpg used to look pretty good. It doesn't look so good anymore. Resale on big trucks used to be good. Now, not so much. In five years there will be more hybrids and a lot fewer SUV choices. That's money in the bank.

I whole heartedly agree with you.

mothman wrote:Go buy a big truck man. Fill it up with groceries.

Done and done.

I used to think people would drive less and spend less on fuel if prices went up, but I don't believe it anymore. I read a statistic the other day that said we Americans have used MORE fuel since prices took off.
Judging from what I'm seeing in the vacation paradise resort area I live in, there seem to be more motorhomes, F350's pulling 35 foot fifth wheels and the like than ever before. I even saw a 40 foot motorhome pulling a Hummer. Didn't look like he was concerned about fuel prices or availability. I would say that probably any sense of social responsibility was down on the list, too.

$2.50 a gallon wasn't that big a deal Olnslo adjusted for inflation that's still very low historically. Wait until $6/gallon is an everyday reality. I think you'll start to see more of an effect then. The motor homes will be pulling geo metros instead of Hummers. Probably won't cut your vacation revelers though. It might INCREASE them. The locals won't be able to afford that plane ticket to go to Hawaii anymore.

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ZooTech wrote:

mothman wrote:Go buy a big truck man. Fill it up with groceries.

Done and done.

You already needed the groceries, right? Surely there's not a run on gas stations and grocery stores in Ohio? I have heard people in Atlanta and Baltimore are lining up at the gast stations - why, I don't know. I'll say this for Seattleites - they don't storm the gas pumps every time there's bad news

It doesn't affect me personally , CB, but there are plenty of burger flippers and low-wage earners seeing a larger percentage of their income going for fuel. If fuel hits $6 here, you will see some economic aftershocks that will be hard for many people to live with. People will have to find new ways to get around, perhaps carjacking will become more popular.....

I hope not - and I am damn glad I live next door to work. I just hope we can go a year or so without any more major bad news. This is gonna effect the economy bad enough. I'm in the building industry and when people get scared, they tend to start closing the pocketbooks on major expenditures.

cb360 wrote:if you're expecting Americans to curb usage based on their conscience for misusing resources you might as well wait for the titanic to make port. It ain't gonna happen.

In a generation or so the oil will run out and then usage will be curbed anyway.

cb360 wrote:

ZooTech wrote:

mothman wrote:Go buy a big truck man. Fill it up with groceries.

Done and done.

You already needed the groceries, right? Surely there's not a run on gas stations and grocery stores in Ohio? I have heard people in Atlanta and Baltimore are lining up at the gast stations - why, I don't know. I'll say this for Seattleites - they don't storm the gas pumps every time there's bad news

Yeah, I was just low on stuff. Nobody here is hoarding anything, but nobody has cut back on travel, either. The price of gasoline is the same as inflation of the dollar...it effects everyone so its impact doesn't really stand out like something that only effects one class or group. As such, it's just life and business as usual around here, which is as it should be.