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The sensor is nothing but a ring of wire that acts like a big metal detector. The problem is that it only detects ferrous metals and can't see aluminum. A lot of bikes don't have enough steel to trip the sensor.

I've had very good luck with putting the (steel) kickstand directly on the wire. The trick is that you have to leave it there until the light is about to change. Many sensors will reset if they detected a vehicle, then it goes away.

I work in the circulation business and they are indeed inductive loops. If it doesn't turn red and you get a ticket, go to your city hall, ask for the plans of the intersection and contest I'd be 100% sure of winning in such cases.

BeerBaron

beerbaron wrote:I work in the circulation business and they are indeed inductive loops. If it doesn't turn red and you get a ticket, go to your city hall, ask for the plans of the intersection and contest I'd be 100% sure of winning in such cases.

BeerBaron

What are the plans of the intersection going to prove in order for me to win a case?

We have run into the same problem. My wife had to go through several of these on her way to work every day. In one place she called the city people explaining what the problem was and asked if anything could be done. A couple of days later the sensor started working for her. The city people called her at work and asked if the situation was improved. They just did an adjustment on the sensor.
In our home town just the opposite happened. They were installing a new one so I stopped and asked if they could set it so it would trigger for bikes. The crew leader told me they had no adjustment. Then I called the city people. I was told that they to get someone from out of town to do the adjustment and would not do it. I then went to the local police station and asked again. They told me of some in town that sometimes would not even trigger for a car, let alone a bike. I was told to see if would trigger. If not go ahead when safe. I was also told that if spotted by the local LEO that I would probably get a ticket and would have to go to court to try to straighten it out.

It's legal in TN for you to proceed through a red light after waiting a "proper duration" in cases like this.

frisch:

You have to look for "detection loop". Once you know there is detection loops you go to the judge and tell em "As you can see here, there is a detection loop that calls for a green light, my motorcycle being made of aluminium and of smaller mass then a car, this detection loop failed to detect my presence"

I'd also look for the programmation of the controller but to do anything with that you need to know how it works.

BeerBaron

It sucks but you may have to dismount & push the Pedestrian WALK button.

CentralOzzy wrote:It sucks but you may have to dismount & push the Pedestrian WALK button.

That's a definite fine here if you get caught. Leaving your vehicle(car, bike, jet-ski, whatever) to push the pedestrian walk button is a definite no-no.

I've heard it is o.k. to proceed after a 'reasonable' amount of time, but have never talked to any cops or law-types to confirm this.

BuzZz wrote:I've heard it is o.k. to proceed after a 'reasonable' amount of time, but have never talked to any cops or law-types to confirm this.

Not to say he hasn't talked with the police plenty....but that particular subject never seems to come up.

embries wrote:It's legal in TN for you to proceed through a red light after waiting a "proper duration" in cases like this.

The instructor in my MSF class said the same thing for Florida, but did point out if you catch a cop with an attitude....wellllll