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ive got an 05 636 and the only diference is the colours they come in. if you havent got a new screen for it yet then get one so you can see the clocks. i found it twitchy to ride at first(last bike was zx9r b1) but once your used to the front end youll find that itll do more than you should ever ask of it on the road. ohh and it's quite capable of outdragging750's and 900 that are a couple of years old just because of the 17000 revs itll pull meaning less shifting of gears. just watch the front end in the wet or in snow

17,000 rpm's? Uhh...no. Sure it may pull 17,000 rpm's waaaay past redline (where your engine is blowing itself up) when you're losing power instead of gaining it. It's powerband starts dropping just above 13,000 rpm's...redline is 14,000 or so. It does produce the most "raw horsepower" of the 600cc japanese RR bikes.

STILL not a big fan of the green!

i was trying to say that the extra revs mean less gear changes compared to larger capacity bikes which results in less shifting of gears so the bike doesnt get unsettled which means a smoother faster line can be held (sorry didnt make myself clear) Ohh and i found that when i fit heated grips to my bikes the hand cramps stop probably because the grips tend to be bigger and it seems to give me better fine throttle controll

Extra revv's doesn't mean less gear changes...it means you just shift at a higher speed. I suppose that you can possibly stay in 1st gear all the way to a higher speed, but eventually you're going to have to shift. So I suppose that yeah, you may have to go to 3rd or 4th gear on a different bike for what you can do in 2nd on your green rocket, but once you get to speed it isn't going to matter. If shifting is that much of a big deal you might want to look for an old Hondamatic.

And shifting unsettles your "lines" that much...

DAU wrote:i was trying to say that the extra revs mean less gear changes compared to larger capacity bikes which results in less shifting of gears so the bike doesnt get unsettled which means a smoother faster line can be held (sorry didnt make myself clear) Ohh and i found that when i fit heated grips to my bikes the hand cramps stop probably because the grips tend to be bigger and it seems to give me better fine throttle controll

And Kabob was just trying to say that there is no point in revving a 636 to 17K rpm because you're way on the downside of the powerband, and you're risking sucking a valve by operating that far above redline.

You're making yourself clear, just not making much sense. If your goal is to out drag the 750s and the 900s, you'll do it much better by shifting right about redline.

I thought the last 1000rpm before redline were typically a place where power was dropping off? Most HP curves that I've seen tend to fall off close to there. In fact the Kawi peaks at 111.4 hp at 13000 rpm and redlines at 14.5k. All the inline 4's seem to be the same.

As a side note that sexy inline 3 in the 675 peaks at 12000 out of 12500 rpm, an excuse to ride up to redline regardless, haha.

A few things. I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but from what I've read is that you really want to impress us with big numbers and emphasize that you have a bike that is fast in a straight line, and that you try to avoid shifting in turns because it "unsettles your lines." From that I gather that you need to practice turning and shifting a bit more. Next you're trying to emphasize the fact that this is a fast bike in straight lines when (and I hate quoting a bike comparison) in '05 the YZF-R6 was found to be the fastest middle weight bike in the 1/4 mile, so don't use that as an emphasis.

Honestly the fact that you can outdrag a 900 from a few years ago is irrelivent because somewhere out there there's a person with a faster bike, and elsewhere there's someone with a bike faster than that one, and so on and so forth.

I'd be more focused on getting good riding technique and enjoying myself and if you really want to "outrace" someone then compete in an amateur race or something. Don't throw big numbers and talk about impossible revv's, just learn about your bike and enjoy yourself!

Oh, and Sevulturus, I saw a Daytona 675 the other day that had already developed chicken strips on the tires! Oh the humanity!!

Sevulturus wrote:I thought the last 1000rpm before redline were typically a place where power was dropping off? Most HP curves that I've seen tend to fall off close to there. In fact the Kawi peaks at 111.4 hp at 13000 rpm and redlines at 14.5k. All the inline 4's seem to be the same.

Yes, that's that's pretty consistent for most I-4s. If drag racing, ideally you want to zip just past the peak hp rpm, then shift so that the next gear will hit just below the peak, and so on... Redline (or just below) is a pretty good aim point for the shift.

well kabob if you doubt my riding in any way then feel free to ship your ride over to england next winter and ill be happy to run some slippy twisty roads with you where i promise shifting mid corner WILL unsettle a bike so the extra rev range makes all the diference(just because your using high revs doesnt mean you have to be accelerating hard and you can downshift into the powerband if you want to) and you could also speak to some of my mates that are quite unhappy that my 636 can outdrag there bikes. and if i were trying to impress you with big numbers i would be talking about my zx9r (although it doesnt rev as high)but that only comes out in the summer. and if your wondering why im riding the 636 through winter it's because the missus has decided the suzuki gsx400f is now hers. ohh and the built in shift light on the 636 can be set anywhere between 12k to 15.5k so even if i didnt know about changing gears then my flashing friend would let me know as for racing having some fun with friends is one thing but the only track time i do is getting scarce as my local track(donnington park, you may of heard of it)26.4 miles away has got very busy and track time is hard to get nowdays

Well Dau, I see one foot firmly wedged in your mouth, and it looks like you're attempting to shovel a second one in there.

Lets make things a liiiiittle bit more interesting neh? Has anyone read the most recent issue of Motorcyclist? I'm talking about the June 2006 Issue where they compare the Suzuki GSX-R600 & 750, the YZF-R6, the ZX-R6, the CBR600RR, and the Daytona 675 using 9 different riders who range from amature to professional racers. How did they get ranked?

1) Daytona 675
2) CBR600RR
3) GSXR-750
4) GSXR-600
5) YZF-R6
6) ZX-R6 (with cheater 636 motor)

Here's what they had to say about the Kawi - pg58 June 2006 Motorcyclist

The bike that recieved the least love was Kawasaki's ZX-R6. While the cheater 636 engine makes for superb midrange it paled in comparisson to the Daytona 675 and -duh-GSXR-750. And it got nipped in the bud by the Yamaha YZF-R6 on top too. Add to that the hard-to-read LCD tach, the harsh-feeling suspension, and a disturbing tendency to drag its shift AND brake pedal at full lean and the 636 gives away ground that it simply cannot afford in a class that is as hotly contested as this.

Kabob983 wrote:Oh, and Sevulturus, I saw a Daytona 675 the other day that had already developed chicken strips on the tires! Oh the humanity!!

My bike still has chicken strips on it, all I get is straight roads around here, so I only get left and right hand turns to scrape the sidewalls . However, I did go out and visit Gadjet one Sunday to help him with some wrenching, when I got there I was looking at my tires and I noticed I'm starting to get marks right to the very edge of my tires... and that's just on regular old left hand turns at the lights. I was pretty happy.