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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:36 pm
by Kal
Thats wicked, how come we don't get them in the UK???

Actually I can probably hazard a guess... Money as usual.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:39 pm
by Kal
Trademark

Honda claims compensation of RMB 25 million

Hearings in the case Honda Motor Co. Ltd (Honda) and its Chinese subsidiaries VS. Chongqing Lifan Motorcycle Group (Lifan) and its distributors in Beijing have opened at Beijing No 2 Intermediate Peoples' Court. The Plaintiff has increased the compensation claim from RMB 22.75 million (US$ 2.75 million) to RMB 25 million (US$ 3.02 million).

The Plaintiff alleged that the Defendant Lifan had manufactured and sold motorcycle engines bearing the mark SINO-HONGDA which was confusingly similar to the registered trademark HONDA and therefore infringed Honda's trademark. A Mr. Zhu of Honda was quoted by saying that Honda had filed a complaint with the Administration for Industry and Commerce in 2000 and began to collect evidence for the current lawsuit from 2001. In July 2002 Honda initiated the lawsuit.

Lifan was not willing to make comments on the case. The board director of Lifan was quoted as saying that Lifan had spent more than RMB 1 million defending this matter.

Source: Hongkong and Guangdong Information Daily, November 18 2003( top)

http://www.iprights.com/publications/ch ... ex_189.asp

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:42 pm
by flynrider
Motofiend wrote:I have dual purpose 18'' wheels on her and she seems to get to 70mph pretty easily. Never tried to keep her there more than a few seconds.
Didnt think of the headwind factor. I hope it would only cost me a few mph's since its somewhat a sportsbike and has all the plasic and windshield working for me.
As far as RPM's are concerned i was pretty close to red line in 5th gear when i hit it. So does that mean its dangerouse? or bad for the bike?
The top speed of 75mph is because that's where it redlines in 5th gear. As a rule, an engine that spends most of its time running at maximum output, tends to wear out at an accellerated rate. They're really not built to run full out, day in and day out.

On top of that. I've noticed that the quality of the chinese knockoffs in the scooter world is less than good. I worked on several last year and was less than impressed.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:14 pm
by runsilent
Actually the Lifan spec sheet states the LF200 max speed is 60 mph. It's a 16HP/8000rpm 197cc 4 stroke thumper, but it gets over 100 mpg according to specs.

http://www.americanlifan.com/lifan/products.html

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:03 pm
by sapaul
We get the full range of Lifan scooters and bikes here and they are great for suburban riding. Highway riding is going to be very suspect, the build quality is not up to the same standards as Hyosung or Kymco. I do however respect your choice as a starter bike. My suggestion would be to get out on to a country road where you can test the top end before you venture onto the highway. Most of the chinese bikes have the safety features like a rev limiter so I would not worry too much.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:02 am
by Motofiend
The specs seem to range quite a bit depending on which site you go to. I am sure it goes faster than 60mph... :oops:

I live in NYC so getting to places like the abandoned air field or huge parking lots would require using the highway a little.

I also go to school about 60 miles away and was thinking of taking it up there in the spring you guys are not making me too confident in my bikes ability to make it or survive the ride.

damn im upset now :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
I am going to self medicate by going out and riding in 30F

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:25 pm
by Relsek
Once when my son's bike was messed up, he borrowed my wife's ninja 250 and went on a ride with me and several other hayabusa. He had the bike at or near it's limit (approx 100, once up to 110 downhill). He rode like that all day, from sun up to sun down, with several stops for lunch, gas and all. The bike did just fine.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:42 am
by sapaul
I Hope the medication worked. Listen, millions of Chinese can't be wrong. One tip though is to make sure that your Lifan is always well maintained then you will not have any problems. The well known name brands have a reputation of being tough because they get abused.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:46 am
by Motofiend
That ride did me good. The bike put a smile on my face. I realize I will reveal how little i know about bikes but i just figured out that the throttle thingy has ALOT more twist in it than I was using.
I have been riding giving it probably a quarter twist through all the gears. The ride was sooo much more fun when i twisted that thing some more. The bike really picked up speed very well, I was impressed. :P