just wanna clear this regarding the gixxer1000 topic.

[VermilionX]

You don't have to show us how cool your bikes is - we get it.

well, that's not the whole point of the post though. it's common knowledge that gixxers are very cool.

but the point is that it out-performed the other 3 SBKs even w/o updating it from last years model while others made changes.

and that is not common knowledge.

[Sev]

You don't have to show us how cool your bikes is - we get it.

well, that's not the whole point of the post though. it's common knowledge that gixxers are very cool.

but the point is that it out-performed the other 3 SBKs even w/o updating it from last years model while others made changes.

and that is not common knowledge.

If it's common knowledge then why do I think they're ridiculous? A waste of resources even.

As for outperforming, that article came across as more then a little biased to me, in fact I'll be that if you look around you'll find articles that claim other bikes are better then the Gixxer. That's sort of the point.

When looking at my bike I've heard it ranked against the competition as 1st 2nd and 3rd out of four, most often it comes up as the close second. So you need to ask how much money the reviewers are getting from the company in the form of advertising for the magazine just by way of example. And there are many other things.

[VermilionX]

im not an expert on that company/website/magazine... but i do know they didn't always give the gixxer the award for best SBK.

i think the past 3 years before 2005, the R1 got the award as the best IIRC from that article.

plus their review seems very objective. they even claimed the new ZX-10R has most hp among the 4.

oh well, like i said, im no expert.

[jmillheiser]

I could care less what some magazine thinks about a bike. I have been considering the FZ6 for my next bike, I have read several articles comparing it to other bikes, i've seen it win one comparo and finish dead last in another. You can find a bike you like by being objective and looking at data sheets.

A bike will fit different people differently, one person may hate the riding position or powerband of a particular bike and another may love it.

I personally cant stand Harleys because I find that their seats are universally uncomfortable and am always worried that the transmission is going to fall apart every time it goes "CLUNK" when shifting, not to mention it takes a pretty good shove of the foot to change gears. Other people absolutely love Harleys

[MikeyDude]

Other people absolutely love Harleys

That'd be me...LOL!

Sorry...

[Mintbread]

plus their review seems very objective. they even claimed the new ZX-10R has most hp among the 4.

That is probably the only subjective part of a motorcycle shootout.

[Gummiente]

Other people absolutely love Harleys

That'd be me...LOL!

Me, too! And I'm not sorry.

[kabob983]

plus their review seems very objective. they even claimed the new ZX-10R has most hp among the 4.

That isn't saying much at all.

More like "the ZX-10 had more horsepower and still the GSX-R wins!" (Suzuki slides them a crisp $100). "And uhh, the Suzuki had the fastest lap times!" (Suzuki slides them another $100). "and uhh...the Suzuki will make you a better rider instantly when you throw your leg over the saddle!" (Suzuki likes this, $200 for that comment).

Now honestly I doubt Suzuki is paying them anything for the article, I think they're just biased riders who really love Gixxers, but I won't put much stock in it.

[V4underme]

I find sporbike comparison's somewhat laughable. Hilarious, even. They aren't written for professional racers, they already know what they are doing. They aren't written for average riders, they can't come close to pushing any of the bikes to their performance limits (other than on a long, long straightaway, which anyone can do). So who does that leave? lol

I guess what it boils down to is some guy being able to say that his 2006 sporty is far superior to his buddy's 2001 model because it's now .02 seconds quicker when ridden by a professional on a race track with very specific suspension setups and ultra-sticky tires.

Take a look at your watch, notice the second hand. See how quick a second actually is? The quarter mile times of the "top" sportbikes and nakeds we can all buy are about that far apart. The really "slow" ones may lag way way back from the fastest, say by 2 whole seconds (check your watch again), again, when ridden by professionals who know what they are doing.

I'm not knocking anyone's bike or motives for buying any particular bike. Heck, I like to read the performance stats as much as anyone, but when you think about real life applications then all those stats, all that performance that let's a bike go soooo much faster than ever before... they are just bulletin board material for 99% of us since we'll never be able to push the bikes that hard w/o killing ourselves.

[shane-o]

VX

ya just dont get it


haveing a hypersort with no skills is not kool dood

infact is fookin ridculous


and riding around the street with no skills on a hypersport in full race leathers is one step away from insanity

but hey if you think your the goods then thats all the matters right ???