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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:49 pm
by Gummiente
BuzZz wrote:What is about someone not likeing Harley's that pisses those who do off so much?
I hear ya, Buzz. I mean what is wrong with these Harley riders, anyway? Jeez, what a sensitive bunch, eh? You'd think after hearing the same tired old cliches a billion times over about how inferior/slow/expensive/unreliable/etc their bikes are they'd develop a sense of humour about it, but no - they still get bent out of shape every time. Go figure.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:28 am
by High_Side
BuzZz wrote: If I say Hondas Suck!!! someone might argue the piont, but WWIII doesn't breakout.
HEY! :twisted: Watch it purple bike boy! :laughing:

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:33 am
by Mintbread
BuzZz wrote:Just curious..... why does this discussion(over and over and over again) always revolve around Harley VS anything else?
In my experience it is usually anything else Vs Japanese bikes.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:01 am
by ZooTech
Gummiente wrote:
BuzZz wrote:What is about someone not likeing Harley's that pisses those who do off so much?
I hear ya, Buzz. I mean what is wrong with these Harley riders, anyway? Jeez, what a sensitive bunch, eh? You'd think after hearing the same tired old cliches a billion times over about how inferior/slow/expensive/unreliable/etc their bikes are they'd develop a sense of humour about it, but no - they still get bent out of shape every time. Go figure.
Hey, Harley no less than earned that reputation, Gummi. If you bring it up now you always here, "Yeah, but the new Evo engines are better". Granted, they are...but how could they not be? What I find insulting is that a bike company can crank out that kind of crap for so long and then expect me to pay $14,000 or more for a non-Sportster model after bringing such crap to market for so long. I would have no problem with Harley whatsoever if they cut their prices by 33% right this minute. That would take them out of the "designer bike" category and bring them more down to earth where they should be. Just look at what you can get from Victory these days for the price of a Harley Night-Train. You'll get a sweet looking custom with a 100c.i. engine and a 6-speed tranny. Or, for the same price, you can choose between a Kawasaki 2000 or a Triumph Rocket III. So I say how dare Harley ask so much for so little. I'm not even saying their bikes are still crap, but their prices are flat out unjustifiable in my opinion.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:11 am
by RangerG
Man...did I start WWIII or sumpthin?? :shock:

I picked up the 1200 Sportster last Friday, and I am still getting used to a bike that is twice the size and weight of anything I have ever owned.

I am very pleased with the bike...the price...well...it hurt a bit, but I guess I just chalk it up to the Pleasure/Pain thing...

As soon as I get a bit more used to it, I will try and hook up with the other local forum members... :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:35 am
by cb360
You have any pics Ranger G. - What color did you get? One of the best looking bikes on the market IMHO.

It really baffles me - these Harley threads. They make a nice bike with lots of pluses and a few minuses... like every other bike manufacturer. Don't like them, don't buy one. Love them? Enjoy your ride. I've never had one, but I'm open to the idea when I get a bigger bike. I'm a value shopper first and foremost, but it also has to fit my eye. I'm a thrifty dude but I won't buy the best bike for the money if I don't like how it looks. Anyway, at this point, other than the historical significance of the company, I just see them as another bike manufacturer.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:57 am
by ZooTech
cb360 wrote:at this point, other than the historical significance of the company, I just see them as another bike manufacturer.
So do I. Unfortunately they don't, and neither does the vast majority of Harley owners. I hear so much about the "exclusive club" you join by buying one. Apparently the club dues are figured into the price tag.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:11 am
by DustyJacket
RangerG wrote:.......I picked up the 1200 Sportster last Friday, and I am still getting used to a bike that is twice the size and weight of anything I have ever owned........
Post pictures !

I rode my month-old Sportster from KC to Ft. Collins, CO and back this weekend. Each way (Friday, Sunday) was 10 hrs moving and 2 hrs stopped. Most of the time was 80mph (just kidding, mr officer, I'd never speed....) Saturday was over 100 miles doing mountain twisties w/brother and brother in law. Total mileage 1522 miles.

No problems. My butt survived. I kept up in the mountain twisties in all but 2 corners, and for 10 minutes after I slid on a wet cattle guard in a curve.

I love my Sportster. (Althoun a Ulysses would be a serious contender if I hadn't already bought my Sporty.)

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:35 am
by cb360
ZooTech wrote:
cb360 wrote:at this point, other than the historical significance of the company, I just see them as another bike manufacturer.
So do I. Unfortunately they don't, and neither does the vast majority of Harley owners. I hear so much about the "exclusive club" you join by buying one. Apparently the club dues are figured into the price tag.
That might be true :laughing: There is something about them I must admit. I like the sound (if they aren't too loud) and I like the look of some of the models. I won't exclude them when I look to move up - being a used market kind of guy it's certainly possible I could find one that fits the bill. But I'm also kind of partial to Honda. I'll see one day when the perfect deal comes along...

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:51 am
by ZooTech
There is one Harley I really like, and no it's not the V-Rod (tried one out and I don't fit). And surprisingly it's not from the Dyna family either (can nine motorcycles look any more alike?). It's the retro-cool looking Road Glide pictured below. I've seen a few done up with flames or American flag motifs and I think they look hella nice.

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