ok keeping with the frogs cause i like them. frogs that live in ponds and wet lands are green right. frogs that live in the rain forest amongst colorfull folors are not green, they are in fact the color of their enviorment. how does that 'change' happen by lose of information? we can assume the original 2 frogs on the arc were green, but now we have frogs of Many different colors and sizes and skills. BUT you say that happens because they lost information? how did a green frog loose information and some how became a vast variety of colors that happen to match its surroundings exactly? even better what about the poisonous frogs in the rain forest? did all the other frogs in the world forget how to be poisonous? or did that one particual type of frog Learn how to survive?ZooTech wrote: No, what I am saying is that no Creationist would ever deny the existence of variation. You and I do not look alike, nor do we have exactly the same physical attributes, but we are both humans. And a toad is a toad no matter how different they look. You can watch toads adapt to different environments for millions of years if you like, but in the end you still have a toad. Not one bit of intelligence is added to its genetic code. Mutations always result in the loss of information, so how did a simple one-celled critter evolve into a human being? Oh yeah...I forgot...given enough time it would, which is where the whole "millions of years" rap comes from.
Show me even one example.
another species incase your getting tired of 'toads'. theres a type of octopus that can change its skin color and patteren totally to match its enviorment. its a very specific pattern. however theres many many types of octopus arent there that cant do any thing remotely like change their color. i guess they all 'lost' information and that one type kept his again it happens to be a specific ability that reflects where it lives?
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/octopus1.html
what about a cactus(as i see them every day). you cant tell me noah had cacti on his arc, and you cant tell me a cactus lived for 40 days under water and neither did its seeds that cant happen. you also cant tell me how any other fragile plant lived for 40 days under water because that didnt happen either no matter what your imagination tells you.
theres supposed to be like 150,000 different types of butterflies, your saying all of them came from 2 original butterflys on the arc. and that some how wherever that arc landed these fragile creatures that die if the wind blows them to hard managed to spread across the Entire globe? as they spread they managed to Loose information and some how become more adapt to their enviorment? i could go on its to easy.
how did noah prevent it? the arc lands/crashes whatever, the doors open all these thousands of animals are right next to each other competing for food. how does a lion not eat a deer after being starved for 40 days? did noah let the 2 deer loose then an hour later let the 2 lions loose? what would the lions have to eat? if they eat one of any other animal around that would kill off the entire species of that animal. the 2 deer would take many years to reproduce to provide enough food for the lions to eat in a month. explain how you think carnivores ate without whipping out every other animal as they were all released within a small distance of each other? what did all the herbivores eat when they got off the arc? rain for 40 days would have killed all the plant life, certainly not enough food for all the animals? you yourself said the seeds survived not the plants, it takes along time for plants to grow and fill an area, certainly animals all in a small area would out eat the plants faster than they could grow back.ZooTech wrote:
What's amazing is that you actually clicked SUBMIT after typing that last paragraph. A frog "fought off every natural enemy along the way"? You mean the natural enemies that Noah had aboard the ark? I'm sure he wouldn't go to the trouble of rescuing two of every critter only to let them loose at random to fight one another.
your opinions are yours alone, if you stopped trying to talk down to people saying we are all wrong and your right maybe you wouldnt come off as an angry father figure lol. no thing to me has ever been PROVEN out of the bible. no event in the middle east is written in the bible either. your reading more into something than is there. show me this exact script that the conflict in the middle east is following. show me something that doesnt read as jibberish. im sure you/whoever read 'a great strife will occur in the sand' and yup thats a script the bible predicted the war in iraq sure enough exactly what happened.ZooTech wrote:
That's just it, Bubba, Creation is science, so I'm not "taking a bit from one and a bit from the other" and making it all fit my arguments. Everyone seems to think Christians have to rely on faith alone, without one shred of physical or scientific evidence to go on, and I'm here to tell you you're flat wrong. I have studied Creation and evolution and have come to the conclusion that the latter makes no sense whatsoever. And I see evidence for Creation all around, not to mention how the events in the Middle East are playing into prophesy like they were following a script. And I don't expect you to "blindly follow my theory", on the contrary you are the one who is blind, my friend. You follow a completely unproven theory forced upon school kids because it's the only explanation of origin that doesn't go against the misinterpreted "separation of church and state" clause.
so yea... now go on and talk down to me, pick on some spelling or verbage error like usual, then get all defensive and say im flat out wrong.[/b]
