The few creating a problem for the rest of us...

[BlueBomber]

"Learn why the FOX5 I-Team says motorcycle riders are making some of those roads dangerous."

It doesn't say SOME morotcycles are making these roads dangerous, it says MOTORCYCLES are making SOME ROADS dangerous.

Granted they do a somewhat better job in the video. But not entirely.

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[JC Viper]

There was a story here about an out of control car ramming into people on the sidewalk. One of the witnesses says he saw something go by really fast on the sidewalk and said everyone thought it was a motorcycle and was surprised it turned out to be a car. WTF i've seen no funs drive on the sidewalk just to load their car/ van but everyone assumes bikers ride on the sidewalk at 40mph.

That's how dangerous stories involving bikes are. People make dangerous assumptions which in turn hurt the many that are riding within the boundaries.

BTW, how does a car lose control that badly in 30MPH NYC streets. All I can think of is stupid maneuvers at higher speeds.

[Venarius]

ANYONE GOT A LINK TO PART 2 OF THE VIDEO?
They say part 2 is "tomorrow night" in the clip, where they actually show us them using the laser speed detector on bikes.

And it was bias. They should have showed car statistics (to put the motorcycle statistics in proper scope, and specified whether all their reported bike accidents were the fault of a sport-bike rider riding too fast, or a cruiser rider riding speed limit hit by a logging truck straying over the line).

The numbers alone show nothing, corralation does not prove causation.

They did mention it was a small number of bikers, however they should have interviewed at least one "safe biker" to let the public know both sides of the story...but then it wouldn't have been so sensational and scary of a story to the inept who sit at home and watch this drivel. But thats just the media.

[Venarius]

Okay...no one else was savvy enough to find the link...

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages ... geId=3.1.1

[Nalian]

No one else savvy enough in 3 minutes?!??! OMG.

I don't think 'the point' was necessarily that video or area, it was how it happens everywhere and, can we as motorcyclists do anything "about" the problem.

[ZooTech]

I don't think 'the point' was necessarily that video or area, it was how it happens everywhere and, can we as motorcyclists do anything "about" the problem.

Nope. Not unless you're prepared to alter human nature as we know it. This whole issue is a reflection of life and society as we know them. It's the reason why police exist in the first place, to go after those few rotten apples spoiling the bunch. All you can do is carry insurance and make out a will.

[Mintbread]

The sooner the world realises that bikes are different to cars, the better off we as riders will be. Overtaking on double yellow lines means nothing on a bike as all the road markings are designed for, yes, a car to safely execute an overtake. Suggested speed signs for corners are designed for cars to safely round a corner, etc, etc.

Bikes get wiped out every day by car drivers but there are no special reports on the moron drivers and lack of driver training and wonderful statistics mentioned in an attempt to get things changed.

[anarchy]

whether you think the video was biased or not, you have to remember, perception is reality... if people perceive a problem, whether real or not, then the problem is real to them. when enough people believe in the perceived problem, they will band together and do something about it. i can pretty much guarantee if they make changes, it won't be to our liking. another option is for us, the motorcycling community, to change the perception.

how do we do that?? maybe change our driving habits. if we have the need for speed, maybe we should move to the track. maybe we can talk to the local authorities about closing down the road for a day or weekend for motorcycles only. maybe we can be a little more considerate when cages are around.

i don't know what the answer is. but i do know that if the community perceives enough of a problem and they want to make a change. again, it won't be to our liking... think about mandatory helmet laws...

[ZooTech]

whether you think the video was biased or not, you have to remember, perception is reality... if people perceive a problem, whether real or not, then the problem is real to them. when enough people believe in the perceived problem, they will band together and do something about it. i can pretty much guarantee if they make changes, it won't be to our liking. another option is for us, the motorcycling community, to change the perception.

how do we do that??

Kill everyone in the media, that's how.

maybe change our driving habits. if we have the need for speed, maybe we should move to the track. maybe we can talk to the local authorities about closing down the road for a day or weekend for motorcycles only. maybe we can be a little more considerate when cages are around.

We're talking about anusholes that ride 153mph in a 55mph zone. Of course WE, the generally law-abiding motorcyclists, could approach this from a different angle, but what's the point? We're not the ones making the news.

i don't know what the answer is.

Clearly.

[anarchy]

whether you think the video was biased or not, you have to remember, perception is reality... if people perceive a problem, whether real or not, then the problem is real to them. when enough people believe in the perceived problem, they will band together and do something about it. i can pretty much guarantee if they make changes, it won't be to our liking. another option is for us, the motorcycling community, to change the perception.

how do we do that??

Kill everyone in the media, that's how.

an intelligent approach...

maybe change our driving habits. if we have the need for speed, maybe we should move to the track. maybe we can talk to the local authorities about closing down the road for a day or weekend for motorcycles only. maybe we can be a little more considerate when cages are around.

We're talking about anusholes that ride 153mph in a 55mph zone. Of course WE, the generally law-abiding motorcyclists, could approach this from a different angle, but what's the point? We're not the ones making the news.

maybe if WE did make an effort, WE would be making the news...

i don't know what the answer is.

Clearly.

and your solution is??