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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:56 am
by Mintbread
But it looks cool...
He has already stated that his riding buddies think he looks good whilst cornering and he has also admitted that they smoke him and he has to catch up to them later.
Form over function.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:59 am
by VermilionX
Mintbread wrote:he has also admitted that they smoke him and he has to catch up to them later.
nope, not always... some riders i can hang with, some i can't.
but i don't really care... im not racing them, im just there to enjoy the ride along w/ them.
it's not about who gets there 1st, it's about the the ride to get there.
now if im racing... then yeah, i will care who gets there 1st.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:03 am
by Kal
VermilionX wrote:it's just that my cornering has been smoother since i started doing it.
question though, what is a threadblock?
Whats not smooth about your normal cornering Verm? It should be smooth straight out of the gate by now.
Posthumane is talking about treadblock... The tread on your tires Verm, you've just misread it.
Posthumane
Ta for the physics explanation. It's always nice to know why something works the way it does.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:11 am
by VermilionX
Kal wrote:
Whats not smooth about your normal cornering Verm? It should be smooth straight out of the gate by now.
i said, it got
smoother.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:13 am
by jonnythan
OK..
Yes, I was a physics major.
Leaning your body over the bike in a turn just means that you have to lean the bike over a little bit less.
Verm.. what exactly is the advantage in this?
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:18 am
by kellanv
maybe Verm is just chicken "poo poo" in corners when he has to lean his bike over, so he hangs off to prevent having to lean it over more than 10* and wetting himself
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:18 am
by younggun
Hate to butt in on your bickering but why is everyone fueling the fire? If Verm wants to ride the way he does then let him, he's the one who looks foolish on a bike not you guys. He has been given constructive criticsm and has chosen not to take it, so let it go. There, theres my two cents worth.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:20 am
by Kaiser Soze
VermilionX wrote:it's just that my cornering has been smoother since i started doing it.
Have you ever considered the fact that your cornering is improving
in spite of your newfound corner technique?
Your cornering is probably improving just because you're getting more saddle time (well, not really, since your "O Ring" is only in it half the time...

). I bet if you had stayed on your damn seat where you belong you would still be noticing an improvement. Hell, anyone starting from zero improve in spite of a few bad habits.
But whatever, it's obvious you don't really want to listen to any constructive criticism, and all of the people telling you to change your cornering techniques are all wrong, and you with your inexperience know better because of the Ben Spies videos you have and some guys told you it looks good from behind on your canyon rides. And they all get a good look too, because you're only going 20mph when you turn.
Anyway, I don't mean to jump on the pile and bash you, but it does get tiring reading these posts of yours where you just ignore good advice.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:22 am
by VermilionX
jonnythan wrote:OK..
Yes, I was a physics major.
Leaning your body over the bike in a turn just means that you have to lean the bike over a little bit less.
Verm.. what exactly is the advantage in this?
1. more tire contact patch, so more traction. let's say both riders go 40mph on the same tight turn... the guy not hanging off might be in the edge of the tires traction limit... but the guy hanging off is not since he has more contact patch.
you can take the same speed w/ less lean angle. so the guy hanging off has more traction points to spare for earlier acceleration out of the corner, leaning more, or braking if needed.
2. hanging off is one of the steering aids along with putting weight on the pegs.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:25 am
by kellanv
this is why "how to" books should be banned from most people