Nalian wrote:I don't think 'the point' was necessarily that video or area, it was how it happens everywhere and, can we as motorcyclists do anything "about" the problem.
Nope. Not unless you're prepared to alter human nature as we know it. This whole issue is a reflection of life and society as we know them. It's the reason why police exist in the first place, to go after those few rotten apples spoiling the bunch. All you can do is carry insurance and make out a will.
I pretty much agree - I was more restating for the other goofball.
anarchy wrote:okay. so john q. public, sitting in his bark-o-lounger decides he can't stop the speeders in georgia because it's outside his circle of influence... but when he sees the news report, he talks to his neighbors... and they all start banding together... and now they've manager to pull the issue within their circle of influence... and now they decide to influence changes for us... it won't happen, will it?? neither did the helmet laws... oops...
There is no greater power on this earth than a bored safety-nut with too much time on their hands. But let's not blow this issue out of proportion. We're far from seeing motorcycles banned all together, so enough with the drama.
did i say or even suggest we were near seeing motorcycles banned all together?? i don't think so. i don't honestly think it will ever happen. the drama isn't coming from me...
Okay, all the safe bikers need to rally along the road in question with baseball bats, and when the evil speeders come along, jump out and take a swing at the wicked demons. We could have a contest, like a sporting event. The javelin throw would be at a moving target--through the front wheel of an evil speeding biker. YES! We can sell tickets and make $$$MILLIONS.
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I was reading the paper today and it may be a bit off topic but it was a moderately sized article on a Ferrari 599 in which the headline touts top speed of 205+. Now when a car that can break the 200 mph barrier it's all cool and astonishing. When a motorcycle breaks the barrier it becomes reckless and should be banned.
Then I was watching something about how motorcycle accidents should be a boon for people searching for organs... bastards.
Oh, and there may not be a ban on motorcycles but they can be restricted heavily, so much so that people may not ride them anyway. Taxes, health insurance, employers cutting back on dangerous habits etc. Just because the US is a big "democratic" and "free" country doesn't mean a small ban may not be enforced. Take for example in China where bikes aren't allowed on the freeway because they hold up traffic.
The stupid AMA has all these great awareness commercials but it seems that their membership fees cover nothing... totally useless in terms of motorcycling.
One thing you can count on: You push a man too far, and sooner or later he'll start pushing back.
I would like someone to produce some solid proof that anyone is truly affected by these news stories. I have actually only seen there have been laws put in place that will make loud pipe illegal in some cities, but I have not seen one law, or law maker pushing to make bikes slower, or restricting the advancement of bikes. In my estimation the bike maker continue to try to make faster bikes that meet the restrictive pollution laws. I just read a story about using titanium to lighten up the exhaust of the new R1 since it has two catalytic converters, which are heavier. Kawasaki just made the biggest engine'd bike in the war of displacement. Besides irrational people, and weird news stories I've seen no sign anyone will have to pay for crazy moron riders, other then those killed in an accident. I'm not saying that is right, just the facts ma'am.
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"What good fortune for those of us in power that people do not think. " Hitler - think about that one for a minute.
JCViper528 wrote:I was reading the paper today and it may be a bit off topic but it was a moderately sized article on a Ferrari 599 in which the headline touts top speed of 205+. Now when a car that can break the 200 mph barrier it's all cool and astonishing. When a motorcycle breaks the barrier it becomes reckless and should be banned.
I've never seen a Ferrari doing over 120mph on a freeway.
Know why?
Immature 18 year old kids can't afford to go out and get a loan on a Ferrari Maranello. The people who can afford a $250,000 car are usually responsible and mature enough not to ride them at such ridiculous speeds on public highways. And among the ones who are immature and stupid enough to ride them at those speeds...... well, there are only going to be a handful of those guys in the entire country.
With bikes, you can pick up a 200-mph missile for the amount of money you'd make with a summer job.
No, but I've seen my fair share of import tuners blowing past at around 90 - 110 along with some kids who are thinking they are fast with daddy's BMW or Escalade.
I just don't like it when people think it's uber cool for a car to go that fast while the bikes are looked at as demons. For 14,000+ a lot of kids will want a car that can carry their buddies than a bike so a ZX-14 or busa is out of the question.
Again we may become restricted to the point where the bike will wheeze when trying to over take in an emergency (read a preview in a UK bike mag about bikes with limiters).
You can tell it's getting a bit worse in my area by my tone. Some b1tch in a honda was picking her nose while looking out the window while rolling into me.
One thing you can count on: You push a man too far, and sooner or later he'll start pushing back.
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Come to Dallas on Friday or Saturday night, and take a little ride around on the expressways. I've been cruising in the 2nd of 4 lanes at 70, and been passed like I had it in reverse by everything from crotch rockets to modified pony cars to exotics of all types. I've actually counted off the time from when they pass me until the back edge of their headlight's pattern reaches a sign. Sometimes it takes me 2 1/2 times longer to reach the same sign. That would put their speeds at about 175mph. There very active street racing groups in many places.
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They really should've shown car accident stats as well. Like I said before roads like that will attract fast cars too.
I'd also like to know how many car drivers have been killed by the law breaking sport bike riders. If the sport bike riders are only killing themselves I don't see the problem.
