What's your opinion of child molestors and why?Gummiente wrote:Unless one happens to be homosexual, a member of the ACLU and/or Catholic, of course.ZooTech wrote:In the end we are all God's children and are equals. I sit not in judgement, but fellowship.
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No, you just happen to be a perfect textbook example of a liberal. To you there is no "right" and "wrong", just different points of view. So I shouldn't concern myself with those that do wrong (like the ACLU) because their viewpoint works for them, right?Gummiente wrote:Why, do you have something to confess?ZooTech wrote:What's your opinion of child molestors and why?
So, do you judge child molestors or what? If so, how dare you judge them?! How dare you point out their behavior and make the statement that it is wrong. That makes you opinionated, bigoted, and judgemental, does it not?
Homosexual behavior = WRONG
Practices of the Catholic church = WRONG
Everything about the ACLU = WRONG
I haven't judged a single individual, just identified the wrong behaviors, the same way you can make a blanket statement like "pedofilia is wrong" without necessarily judging an individual child molestor. See how that works?
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BRRRRZZZZTTTT!!! Another wrong answer for the Zoomer! Nice try, though.ZooTech wrote:No, you just happen to be a perfect textbook example of a liberal.
Nope, still having a hard time following your version of "logic". Still funny as hell, though.ZooTech wrote:I haven't judged a single individual, just identified the wrong behaviors, the same way you can make a blanket statement like "pedofilia is wrong" without necessarily judging an individual child molestor. See how that works?


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Well I can see from your avatar where your logic, reasoning, and personality come from.Gummiente wrote:BRRRRZZZZTTTT!!! Another wrong answer for the Zoomer! Nice try, though.ZooTech wrote:No, you just happen to be a perfect textbook example of a liberal.
Nope, still having a hard time following your version of "logic". Still funny as hell, though.ZooTech wrote:I haven't judged a single individual, just identified the wrong behaviors, the same way you can make a blanket statement like "pedofilia is wrong" without necessarily judging an individual child molestor. See how that works?
The Catholic church and the ACLU are organizations, and homosexuality is a movement. I can stand against those entities without judging the participants. But, you've already labeled me in your mind and refuse to add a single thing to the discussion so I'm not gonna waste any more of Mike's hard drive space arguing with you.
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So much for not judging an individual.ZooTech wrote:Well I can see from your avatar where your logic, reasoning, and personality come from.

Haven't labelled you anything - yet. Nice cop-out, though.ZooTech wrote:But, you've already labeled me in your mind and refuse to add a single thing to the discussion so I'm not gonna waste any more of Mike's hard drive space arguing with you.


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It's not a cop-out. You haven't made a single point yet. Why should I waste time defending myself against wise-cracks and accusations of bigotry? I asked an honest question and I got, "Why, you got something you wanna confess?" I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you weren't on the high-school debate team were you?Gummiente wrote:Nice cop-out
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Because that is exactly what your contributions to this thread have consisted of. Why should I waste time getting into a theological debate with someone who isn't prepared to listen?ZooTech wrote:You haven't made a single point yet. Why should I waste time defending myself against wise-cracks and accusations of bigotry?
Is that what that was? Seemed like nothing more than an attempt to change direction to me.ZooTech wrote:I asked an honest question and I got, "Why, you got something you wanna confess?"
Wrong again. Don't fool yourself into thinking you're an opponent worthy of a debate, though. You've already proved to me you lack the necessary skills.ZooTech wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you weren't on the high-school debate team were you?


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Excuse me , however if one is going to be literal about anything , one can not be exclusive .ZooTech wrote:The Bible refers to churches as women, in this case a mean. A mean is unfaithful.
The definition of mean is a prostitute and the defining qualities of a prostitute is one who engages in sexual activities for money. This has absolutely nothing to do with fidelity ..
Let's keep everything literal or abandon this discourse entirely .
And while we're at it let's look at that favorite cuss word of yours "liberal"
not narrow in opinion or judgment : TOLERANT;
Now that sounds like good Christian practice if you ask me .
Once again , I had to insert my 2¢ worth in .
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Sevulturus wrote:Actually quite a few different animals -- most commonly primates -- will exhibit homosexual activities.
One need look no further than Bonobo Chimps (also known as pygmy chimps). Genetically they are closer to humans than any other mammal.
The bonobo chimps "swing both ways" so to speak and if you believe in evolution at all it is easy to see why there are hetero's and homos.
Of course it is a lot easier to condemn then try to understand.
I don't condemn and I sort of understand. My sister is gay. And she got married to a woman. (It became legal for same sex partners to marry about 1-1/2 years ago here) Now I have a sister and a sister-in-law (my sister's wife).
And, horrors, they will be having a child next month. My sister's wife is pregnant.

So I must be guilty of being a heathen by association...

Does this make my sister a bad person? No it does not. She is a human being with wants and needs just like everyone else. She is well liked in the community and at her workplace.
I believe there is room on this planet for all kinds of belief systems. Just as there are cultural differences the world over, there are also religious differences the world over. And that includes us non-religious people as well.
We all come from different walks of life and have been influenced by our families and surroundings. Just because a person has a belief in a god does not make them any different. We just have different values. I may not be religious but I am still a good person and I am worthy of being loved and respected.