Excellent figure 8

[Brackstone]

If your intellect is truly this keen, perhaps you should apply it to some other subject which has baffled humanity, such as curing cancer or the common cold, or developing toast that won't land butter side down when dropped...

Toast landing Buttered Side down has been debunked.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mythb ... 2227860160

[beginner]

Watch for yourselves and decide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRUeEkS644

Counter balancing and counter steering both LEAN the bike. The rider in that video moved around but kept his body centered over the bike except for his little wiggle wobble at the end, which was an oscillation, not a lean. If he had shifted his body weight sufficiently to one side and left it there the bike would have leaned the opposite way enough to be visible. The rider never did that, he never counter balanced so the bike didn't lean.

How is it that you've been riding for a few months and understand how a motorcycle works better than people who have studied for decades?

If your intellect is truly this keen, perhaps you should apply it to some other subject which has baffled humanity, such as curing cancer or the common cold, or developing toast that won't land butter side down when dropped...

If a rider "counter balances" to one side the bike leans the opposite way--true or false? Counter balancing is the ONLY way to lean the bike with body weight--true or false. If the answer to those two is true then the bike in that video did not lean because the rider did not counter balance.

P.S. My theory is the buttered side is heavier and has less wind resistance. Plus, when it slips out of your hand that adds a slow roll, so gravity, aerodynamics and momentum favor the butter-side-down landing. Didn't NASA study this yet?

[LDS]

If a rider "counter balances" to one side the bike leans the opposite way--true or false?

Counter balancing is leaning the opposite direction of the motorcycle, irrespective of why hit's leaning.

Counter balancing is the ONLY way to lean the bike with body weight--true or false.

Totally, utterly, completely false.

If the answer to those two is true then the bike in that video did not lean because the rider did not counter balance.

If pigs could fly, they'd spend less time in the mud.

.S. My theory is the buttered side is heavier and has less wind resistance. Plus, when it slips out of your hand that adds a slow roll, so gravity, aerodynamics and momentum favor the butter-side-down landing. Didn't NASA study this yet?

Well, then. That's probably wrong too.

[TEvo]

I have to say... I'm getting a lot of practice consuming popcorn as I continue to follow t his thread.

[LDS]

I have to say... I'm getting a lot of practice consuming popcorn as I continue to follow t his thread.

Ease up or switch to low-salt low-fat.

[MrShake]

It occurs to me a couple of things:

1. Learning to ride a bike using "Youtube" as your source of information has got to be the worst idea I've ever heard of.
2. If you have to "Force" the bike to lean, your not steering right.
3. If you've never gone over 30mph, then your counter-steering experience is limited
4. If, since Youtube is your teacher, someone shows you a youtube video completely proving your wrong, don't argue any more

That is all.

[CaptCrashIdaho]

I have to say... I'm getting a lot of practice consuming popcorn as I continue to follow t his thread.

Ease up or switch to low-salt low-fat.

Like Toast?

[LDS]

I have to say... I'm getting a lot of practice consuming popcorn as I continue to follow t his thread.

Ease up or switch to low-salt low-fat.

Like Toast?

Scraping off the burnt part!

[CaptCrashIdaho]

I have to say... I'm getting a lot of practice consuming popcorn as I continue to follow t his thread.

Ease up or switch to low-salt low-fat.

Like Toast?

Scraping off the burnt part!

NO. DUDE. I've been practicing with settings and I don't think I'll burn it when I finally plug the toaster in!

[LDS]

I've got an awesome toaster. If you cut a bagel just right, you can open the halves like a book without separating them. It looks kind of like, well, you know, a figure eight...